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About “Spider's Web”

The work “Spider's Thread” by Ryunosuke Akutagawa has been able to be interpreted in various ways since ancient times, and I've always been curious.

When I first read it (when I was a kid)
① Kandata is Moka, I thought I would join forces with everyone and reach paradise together

A little time passed (puberty)
② I'm probably the same as Kandata anyway, and I thought everyone's ego would win and ruin their chances

After a while (rebellious period)
③ Who is Buddha! (Buddha, though.) I can't believe Kandata, who has lived as a villain without education, is tested in extreme situations where Kandata is unlikely to succeed. I didn't feel like helping originally, and I thought there was no right answer or salvation in this story

After a little while (adolescence)
④ I thought that if people watched Kandata so much that they didn't even think they would climb it, or if, like an Edoko in rakugo, I thought, “My self, who once fell into hell, will I settle down by leaning on spider webs, etc.”, maybe the Buddha would definitely have helped Kandata

And now (middle age)
Since ⑤ Akutagawa wrote it as a picture book for children, I also think that going around a circle and ①'s childlike pride (commandment through kandata) is the most straightforward way for them to read it as the author intended

So I have a question.

What should I do to ensure that Kandata rises to paradise?
What advice would the respondents give to Kandata who would like to be saved based on all of their own insights and experiences about Buddhism?
Or is this a story about how Kandata can't be saved no matter what?
What else would you say about this work?

5 Zen Responses

There is a Buddha who won't drop me into hell.

 “Spider Thread” is a novel, and I don't think it's a Buddhist children's story.
My memory is vague, but the Buddha, who saw Kandata fall back into hell with the other sinners, said, “It had a slightly sad expression, but I continued my morning walk again”... I think the novel ended with this passage.
There's nothing wrong with this story.
As is the way it is received by the Jodo Shinshu sect, it is not the Buddha who “puts those who have fallen into hell on a basket and safely pulls them up with a wire”... and the one who “can't drop them from the edge into hell,” is regarded as the Buddha.
What I usually do is go to hell, but the Buddha can't watch me fall into hell miserably. That's why I have no choice but to go to hell, so I was born with the Buddha of the Pure Land.
It couldn't be more amazing.
Also, we have received that there is nothing more to be thankful for.
Also, this is just how they are perceived in the Jodo Shinshu sect... just in case.

Mr. Tanukita's discussion is quite deep.
As Mr. Tanukida said, this story can be interpreted in various ways.
Before I became a monk, I fell back to hell because I thought that only I should be saved, and that I wanted to be saved by myself. In other words, I thought it was a commandment not to just think about yourself.

But now it's a little different.

Kandata is just a normal human being, just like us. And I was just scared. The thin thread seems to be breaking even now. If you go to hell again, you'll have to suffer. I don't know if the next opportunity will be in hundreds or thousands of years.
I was just so scared and scared that I cut the strings at my feet.
It can't be helped.
If we were exposed to the same situation, I think we would probably do the same thing.

So what should we do?

All you have to do is tell them.
That thread is a special spider's thread, so it won't break even if hundreds or thousands of people grab it. So don't worry. Trust that string and climb slowly. and.
If I had told them, Kandata's behavior would have been different. Good luck to the people below! It must have encouraged me.

This teaching is equivalent to proselytizing or preaching Buddhism. Teach the Buddha's teachings to those who are afraid, those who suffer, and those who are sad. That is the role of monks and Buddhists.
This story tells us that we should fulfill that role well.
Now that I'm a monk, I interpret it this way.

Disqualified for “This spider's web is mine, isn't it?”

Good evening.

I didn't like the question “What did the author want to say” in the Japanese language test. there's no way you can understand. In fact, it seems that when the author who wrote the sentence tried the question “What did the author want to say,” there were times when they couldn't answer it (laughs)

Therefore, you are free to interpret what is written in any way. ① to ⑤, everything and more! I thought so.

Well, as my interpretation, the spider's thread broke the moment Kandata shouted, “This spider's web is mine.” According to the flow of the story, readers know that the Buddha drove it down for Kandata, but in the actual Kandata, they just happened to discover that there was a spider's thread right in front of them. Even so, “It's my thread! I said, “Everyone, get down.”
Hell is a place where people who are greedy and don't give to others go. Even though the Buddha tried to help, Kandata couldn't give up the desire to “belong to me.” I think that's why I was sent back to hell.

In order for Kandata to rise to the top, it was necessary to give up greed. If I were to give advice to Kandata, it would be “throw away your greed, have the feeling of giving.”

I want you to come to the temple before the darkness of your heart becomes terminal cancer

That is children's literature, isn't it? If that's the case, it's probably ① after all. However, apparently, this Buddha doesn't look like Buddhism. When I googled it, something interesting was written on Wikipedia as a “similar story.”

Well, that's it. The following is not an interpretation of the original story, but rather a story about what would happen if it were my own anthology.

The Buddha is not a savior. It is a symbol of the conscience in Kandata's heart. Hell is also not a world after death; it is a symbol of the darkness of his heart.

A life full of sins... I hurt myself just as much as I hurt people. I'm tormented by guilt every day. It's like days in hell. The hand that was waved as if to brush away that current situation was another crime.

... I want to be saved... Even if I'm like this, I didn't kill spiders back then, did I? I have that kind of heart, too. I can do it if I want to live that way... I want to change...
I want to be saved, but there's no way I should be saved like this. I want to change, but I have to suffer even more. The subtlety of spider silk symbolizes the feeling of disliking and despising oneself while seeking such salvation.

Meanwhile, when I imagined myself living a clean and proper life, I may have chills that gave me goose bumps. I want to change... but can I live like that... the muddy feeling where conflicting thoughts coexist without contradiction symbolizes the depressing feeling of spider silk clinging to the body and not leaving.

It's not foolish plans, it's even easier if you stop evil. But what can't be stopped by one person is human nature (saga). So I want you to go to the temple while the vicious cycle is as light as possible...

In his days of agony, he comes into contact with someone else's life, and he realizes it. The people around them also suffer, and even when they regret it, they live their lives while trying to find value even by force themselves.
When he realizes that he isn't the only one suffering, he compares himself to others, and his attitude of trying to change his thin self, like a spider's thread, seems worthless.
Then, in order to maintain his balance of mind, he depreciates his evaluations of those around him. Disgust for oneself is superimposed on people's appearance. ... well, what does it mean for me to be as true as a human being? If everyone lives with darkness, if the place where I changed is similarly dark, what is the meaning of change? What is salvation? What is true? What is sin?
At that moment, something completely broke in his mind. and he...

Tanukida-sama

I'm the only one in this story...
Self-centered thoughts and actions cause you to suffer as a result
I think the theme is to become.

“What should I do to ensure that Kandata rises to paradise
That was great, wasn't it?”

Even though I and others are different things, they are one thing
But what I notice in this story is,
If you say it's your thread and don't try to eliminate others
I think that was great.
Of course that's difficult for us
I think so.

“What advice would you give to Kandata who wants to be saved?”

Heaven or hell, good and evil, top and bottom... so relative
I think it's good to stop looking at the world with thoughts.
Even though I wear glasses that make me look at it that way,
We are in a state where we have forgotten that we are hanging it.
Originally, there is no heaven or hell in this world.
Human consciousness is created using words and meanings.
Before the world of words and meaning, the real world is one step ahead
It's spreading. Please be aware of that.
Please feel it. If you do that, hell will disappear.
Heaven will disappear too.

“Are you talking about Kandata being saved no matter what?”

I don't think it's a story about not being helped no matter what.
We are in a world where we were saved before we said we were saved or not saved
So I think that means they don't notice it.
In this story, the Buddha made a sad face at the end and wandered around
What they don't seem to care much about being walked on
Basically, I'm saved... I'm coming from that kind of place
I think so. Somehow though.

“How do you interpret this work?”

Heaven and hell are connected by a single thread drawn by the Buddha.
The candata and the many people underneath are connected by a single thread.
Heaven and hell, Kandata and people below, myself and people who are eliminated,
Although they are in pairs, they are expressed as connected.
“The relative view of conflict and separation brings suffering
I mean, salvation leaves that way of looking at it; everyone is one
It is interpreted as “I'm at a point where I'm starting to notice that.”
Kandata did a lot of bad things because Kandata himself was a bad person
It's not about that, it's a way of looking at things that are in conflict or separation
I think it's also because of what I was doing.