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About the “no ignorance, no ignorance...” part of the Heart Sutra

Hello.
From the previous question, “no ignorance, no ignorance, no death, no age death” by the Heart Sutra
I'm still curious about that part, so I'll ask you a question.

It is said that this part mentions the twelve lucky signs,
What is my own rough summary of the twelve lucky signs
Fundamental ignorance (ignorance) → survival instincts and perception of the outside world (action, knowledge, fame, six places) → instincts and afflictions that occur indistinguishably (touch, receive, love, take) → survival made up of instincts and afflictions → the idea of “I” arises as a living entity (life) → “I” eventually dies (death from old age)
Is that what you mean?

In my opinion, the Heart Sutra is about this part
“No matter how much you look at it, it's hard to break the causal relationship between the twelve lucky signs”
(“nothing” ignorance, “nothing” old age and death → “nothing” as denial)

but
“If you look at things as they are (if you look at them in aerial view)
I know everything is an irreplaceable truth.”
(“Nothing” ignorance, “nothing” old age death → air phase, “nothing” as wholeness)

It seems that the words “nothing” and are used in different ways
I think, what do you think?
If you read it literally, it's the opposite of saying “there's no A, but there's no shortage of A,”
This is a nonsense sentence that doesn't make sense at all.

In this part, everyone who reads the Heart Sutra first asks “huh?” It's where I think,
There are no books that explain anything that makes sense. (To the extent that I can say it in a bossy manner,
(I haven't read the book)
Some say, “It is Theravada Buddhism that sticks to the form of the twelve lucky signs.
The Heart Sutra is Mahayana Buddhism, so I don't care about that.”
There is also a book about slaying it in a nutshell.
I don't think it's that simple...

There may be many interpretations, but I would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts.
I'm sorry for being such a geeky question.

5 Zen Responses

Turn back the table

I read your question.
Mahayana Buddhism tends to reverse Theravada Buddhist teachings in order to justify itself.
For example, in the Lotus Sutra, Shakyamuni says, “You thought I was dead, right? Too bad, I was actually alive! They insist on “(Hisato Sanesei)” and turning the teachings upside down until now.
This trend is evident in the Heart Sutra.
In the Theravada, the twelve lucky signs span the three generations of materialized past, present, and future, and are considered by allocating 12 items.
In response, Dragon Tree, the master of the sky, argued that language is nothing but the result of our actions.
For example, a chair is a chair because we sit on it, and if we don't sit down, it's not a chair or anything. The chair itself has no substance. Nevertheless, the name chair walks alone, and we have the illusion that it exists as if it were independent of the person responsible for the act. This is something that is being said in current brain science, isn't it?
Therefore, regardless of the twelve zodiac signs, it is determined that liberation, karma, and affliction are similar to reality when the name is given due to analytical thinking.
If you read it based on that, you'll understand it.
“There is no ignorance in the first place, so there is no way to run out.” It will be.
It's not an antithesis.
As you may have noticed, Dragon Tree says ignorance is a language function. If you replace it like that and read the Chinese zodiac, I think the Chinese zodiac fortune you understand is close to that.

Developments on various air phases

hello!

If you put a space where you cut,
It becomes ignorant, ignorant, and ignorant.

In other words, “clueless! There are none, and ignorance will run out! There's no such thing.”

What this means is that originally, “ignorance” does not actually exist, so “running out of ignorance” would not be possible either.

Speaking of dragon trees, it can also be said that this is because it is unreasonable for something that has already been exhausted to run out even more.

To add a little more, in the Heart Sutra, it is probably explained that the various laws (dharma, Buddha's teachings) are empty; the word teaching does not have any substance; it is something like a scent to guide sentient beings at all.

I was keenly aware of the meaning of what is explained in the Heart Sutra; for example, we monks will explain the teachings of Buddhism for the time being. For example, “Everything is impermanent!” There are also times when they explain that.

Now, that becomes a problem, and people who listen to it say, “Everything is impermanent!” When it comes to whether you can be convinced to say, “Oh, that's true,” that's not necessarily the case, is it?

You can see here that there is no substance in this word called impermanent conduct that makes people understand impermanent behavior.

When people truly know imperfections, when they face the death of an important person, or see a loved one getting old... when they see things as they are (the reality of various laws), they probably encounter the law (teaching), saying “various acts are impermanent.”

So, spreading Buddhism isn't just about using Buddhist terms, is it?

In the Hannya Sutra, the Buddhist term (Dharma) is seen as “empty,” and they are probably trying to get rid of things like hand grime stuck in terms such as “ignorance” or “anguish.”

Do whatever you want to benefit others! When words can be used, they are called “law,” and that kind of thing is probably called “sky.” For people like this, there is no such thing as a Buddhist term, and it can also be said that there is not a single term that is not a Buddhist term.

The Mahayana people who aspired to become Bodhisattvas brilliantly extracted this kind of background and logical structure from Shakyamuni's teachings.

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I'll end with empty words.

“Nothing” in the Heart Sutra denies reality

Eishun Doji

This is Kawaguchi Hidetoshi. This is my humble answer to the question.

What the Heart Sutra repeatedly denies with “nothing” is called an “substance.”

An “entity” refers to a way of being something that itself is independent and self-sufficient, regardless of anything else.

Even if that “substance” is denied, the “luck” of the twelve lucky signs is not denied.

“Ignorance, ignorance, death without old age, death without old age” means that there is no “ignorance,” “ignorance,” “old age death,” or “death from old age,” and it indicates that there are “ignorance,” “ignorance,” “death from old age,” and “death from old age” as an auspicious sign.

Also, it is said that there are no “four senses” as an entity, no “wisdom,” and there is no “enlightenment to be obtained,” but what has been denied is just “substance,” and there are “four senses,” “wisdom,” and “enlightenment to be obtained” (certainly as luck).

It is shown in the Heart Sutra that no matter how much you proceed with Buddhist training, you will never reach enlightenment even though you have been imprisoned as an entity due to club's abandonment (being born to cause people to be imprisoned as if they actually exist).

The twelve lucky signs are very important teachings. Dragon Tree Daishi, who is also the founder of Mahayana Buddhism, is also shown as an important teaching as it is in the fundamental middle theory, so there is no change that it is an important teaching even in Mahayana Buddhism, so I want to firmly understand it.

Kawaguchi Hidetoshi Gassho

“Nothing” means ❝ doesn't rise above recognition ❞

If you translate nothing as “nothing,” I think it would go in a strange direction.
It exists even though it is an ant but not at all.
Let's take a look at the corner of the room.
Even though it really existed, it had been forgotten.
What you see, what you hear, what you smell, taste, feeling, thoughts...
When you sense, perceive, and feel it at that time, it definitely occurs in this body.
Even if I say it definitely happened to me, I will leave it right away. The law of immediate separation. Even though it was an immediate departure, it was also something I saw from one side. Seen from this point of view, it can also be said that “brand new things are being encountered and happening right now.” But that is also recognition. recognition. It's a head-on view called looking back.
I can't make it in time to experience the current true reality, even if it is broadcast live at high speed.
I think there weren't enough translations or words at the time.
There were many people who experienced it, so it was an age where even that amount of information was useful enough.
Translation is something that only translates into linguistic death if the person who experienced it does not translate it.
Even if Ike Akira is good at explaining, if you try to translate this, it will be completely different.
Most of the translations of the Heart Sutra in the world were translated by people who wanted to translate them or people who wanted to publish books, so there are many things that have not been fully translated depending on the thing.
Even if someone who hasn't cooked writes a recipe book, they can't talk about it.
Even when people who aren't performers criticize a song, they criticize it because they feel like they understand it no matter what.
The same can be said for the translation of sutras.
Speaking of forbidden talk, it might be forbidden talk, but since Buddhist scholars eat it, there are also people who are quite shy.
Since it was only possible to guess with the words “no j” or “sky” to express that nuance, that feeling, future generations will probably be puzzled.
Even when I tried to understand it from language, I couldn't understand the Heart Sutra.
If you don't have an experience or experience, “Oh, this is it.” “Oh, this is it?” I wasn't able to meet it.
If you look at the work of the self with analytical knowledge, the explanation that it is 12 causes holds true.
But what about “reality”? It must be doing something different from such analytical thinking and philosophical explanations. Even if there are things like lifting chopsticks, drinking tea, ignorance, or death from old age, they probably haven't taken it up. When you are unaware, ignorant, or unconscious, everything is empty, so it doesn't rise above recognition. It won't happen. That is the law minister. Aspects of the law. It's a view of enlightenment.

Background knowledge together

(I'll post the previous question for readers)
https://hasunoha.jp/questions/26599

No, it's the twelve lucky signs themselves. There are many scholars of the older generation who are insane. Watasha actually trained in the Theravada in Southeast Asia and said, “Why are all the stories I've heard so many lies!?” I got angry. Those people did the exercises on the chart based on the sutras and said, “This is how Mahaya and Theravada look!” I was just imagining it. Also, there are a huge number of books where people who are not experts simply pop up and earn pocket money by throwing around experts.

Now, that's quite a few characters, but please see my answer here for the twelve lucky signs. I'll write along with that.
https://hasunoha.jp/questions/26295

First of all, it's easier to understand if you think of ignorance as just one word. In short, the opposite of ignorance is ignorance. So if you read it flat, it means “it's not 100% ignorance juice, nor is it zero ignorance juice” with the same logic as “it's not NO, it's not YES at the same time.”

When it comes to what this means, at the end of the day, “this state is 100% ignorance. Thinking like “that state of affairs is zero percent ignorance” itself is equivalent to “taking” in the twelve lucky signs. In other words, “the worry of evaluation and sifting through.”
That evaluation is income (my money!) That's why it's done. “My own mental habit where such ideas have become commonplace (called in the twelve lucky signs). It's a story about “notice (in other words, karma) and stop it,” so after all, that reading is misleading.

Well, when it comes to how to read it, at the end of the day, what I want to say is “no matter what your brain thinks about 0% or 100%, it's originally empty,” so “ignorance is inherently empty.” Also, ignorance is originally empty. That's why “don't unfold the story in your brain (faraway, completely falling dream).”
It's “nothing = empty = everything” here.
https://hasunoha.jp/questions/3160

So in the end, the “part I didn't dare to translate” such as Gategate is the core of the Heart Sutra. It's not thirst for love, it's just like I read it, it's just like I heard it when I heard it. That's because it's the Buddha's heart. or because the sincerity of praising sutras for someone else is the heart of a bodhisattva