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Will I be unhappy in the next life if I commit suicide?

A monk says that Buddha explained suicide from the source, “Even if you commit suicide, you will be a loser in life, and you will be unhappy in the next life,” but did Buddha really preach that way?

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“Did Buddha really preach that?”
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We analyzed hundreds of sites related to suicide.
Consequently
It was discovered that Shakyamuni did not make a value judgment about suicide.

eg
There is a story about a disciple named Vaccari in the “Zaakonsutra”
He who thinks about death from the suffering of a serious illness
the other disciples took care of them devotedly
I was only asking how Shakyamuni had studied Buddhism.
In the end, Vaccari committed suicide
Shakyamuni did not blame his disciples for “how they died.”
but that doesn't mean they are condoning suicide
In scenes where Shakyamuni responds to a disciple who is thinking about death
They strongly hoped “I want them to stay alive.”

Shakyamuni's Views on “Suicide”

Kawasaki-sama

Shakyamuni's views on “suicide” are extremely complex, and it is said that in the early religious groups, there were many people who cut their attachment to life in order to break their obsession, that is, there were many people who committed suicide, so it was first prohibited to commit suicide due to the commandment of immortality.

However, on the other hand, it is also true that there were cases where the apprentice's suicide was tolerated or acquiesced.

I think the difference can be divided into those who, even after finishing this life, are still unable to break free from reincarnation and are clearly lost and suffering, and those who have already reached a state of liberation and do not lose and suffer in reincarnation again even if they commit suicide.

Basically, most suicides of normal people and ordinary people are due to ignorance (fundamental ignorance) and worry. In other words, it is a bad act due to bad motives, and since it becomes bad work (karma) and causes people to suffer from reincarnation, of course, such suicides are not recognized by Shakyamuni.

On the other hand, it can be inferred that a suicide without ignorance (fundamental ignorance) and worry, where the motives are not polluted, and the act is not polluted may mean that it was tolerated or acquiesced.

Therefore, I think it can be said that the act of suicide by a person who is already in a high position and whose act is untainted could not be stopped.

However, the majority of suicides in the world are often due to anger, hatred, jealousy, hopelessness, pessimism, etc., and they are bad works, so of course they must be stopped.

Also, there is the question of what will happen to suicide due to altruism (to save someone, for example), but if the motive for altruism is truly pure good, the act of suicide is a good cause, so it is conceivable that there is room for acceptance.

The point is, in Buddhism, emphasis is placed on karma issues in motive and action.

Kawaguchi Hidetoshi Gassho

Hello Kawasaki-san. Thank you for writing.

When I did a search with the phrase “even if you commit suicide, you will be a loser in your life, and you will be unhappy in the next life,” a website that looked like that came up.

To be honest, I'm surprised to see the content. There are various forms of Buddhism in the world, and hasunoha is not a place to criticize Buddhism from a position different from my own, so I won't add criticism, but I can't nod what is written on the website in question. I don't think so.

The sutras that serve as the source are not shown, but as far as I can read the sentences on the website, it seems that the person who wrote them read the early Buddhist sutras and added their own interpretations.

Next, as my acceptance, I'll think about whether the Buddha explained that committing suicide is a loser in life.

Yes. The Buddha I know doesn't explain such things. However, in Buddhism, there are a huge number of sutras, and there are also those that contain content that contradicts each other, as it is called the 84,000 Dharma. Therefore, it is no wonder that some of the sutras preach this way.

Among the sutras (Jodo Sanbu Sutra) that I myself cherish, I don't know, and I've never heard of, the Buddha saying suicide is good or bad.

The Buddha doesn't say it's okay to commit suicide, and he doesn't say it's no good, does he? In “Buddha Sekkan Muryojukyo,” the Buddha said, “You are an ordinary man.” It can be stated. In the sutras, these are words addressed to Queen Idaike, and I accept that these words were not limited to Idaike alone, but addressed to each and every one of us.

I think that ordinary people are people who are swayed by worries, lose their way in life, and lose their way in death. The Buddha told us that it was that kind of person, didn't he?

For myself, it's hard to live, and I think it's sad to take my own life because I think it will be easier when I die. It's sad that I have no choice but to choose to die because I don't want to live.

On the other hand, I don't want to insult someone who chose their own death as a loser in life. The Buddha in me doesn't say that after all. I think these are words that hurt that person's dignity and hurt the people around them.

What do you think of Kawasaki-san himself?

I didn't ask that directly, though.

This is because the Buddha spoke like that, but I didn't hear it directly, so I don't know the true meaning, but no matter what it is, everything is cause and effect.

Therefore, no matter what the reason is, the fact that the problem has not been solved will always be a result. If not solved, it will also become the cause again, so the same thing will happen over and over again.
It's the same thing because there was probably a cause for taking one's own life.

If you do something that improves even a little while being utilized in this way, it will be a good cause, so the results will also improve.
It can be said that Buddha explained that meaning.