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Shouldn't temples be opened up for the sake of the community?

I was disappointed and hurt by the words and actions of the wife at a nearby temple, but please listen.
I'm a staff member at a special needs school, and I always take a walk with 15 students and 3 other staff members, and the walking course includes a nearby temple, and the students enjoy taking a break in the precincts and running around cheerfully.
Toilets are also rented.

One day, when I left the temple to go back to school, I was stopped by the temple's wife and asked, “Don't you have any morals?” I was suddenly scolded.
Unilaterally, “even if you go up to someone else's house without permission and use the toilet without permission to destroy the garden, do you go home with an unfamiliar face without any greetings?
When and around what time can I go in advance when I come? I was told, “It's common sense to get in touch with, isn't it?”

I'm not convinced, but temples exist for the sake of the community, so anyone can freely enter and leave, and use the toilet freely, isn't it?
The wife said, “Our house is not a tourist temple, and our toilets are not public toilets.” That's right.

This is a pity for the students.
Are all temples like that?

8 Zen Responses

Depends on the relationship with the region

I understand the intention of your question, Mr. Kotogisu, but it depends on the relationship between the region and the temple.

There are many temples in urban areas that are relatively closed due to the busyness of Buddhist services and the size of the facilities for crime prevention, but it is different if it is a temple closely connected to the community.

In any case, circumstances are different from temple to temple, and the way of thinking about opening a temple differs depending on the region and the chief priest, so I think it's better not to cause trouble.

It's unfortunate

Nice to meet you, Hototogisu.
This is Nakamura Taishaku from Kannon Temple, the temple of Dharma and ceiling paintings in Tokushima Prefecture.

I also send my children to support classes, so the nuances contained in the words “disappointed and hurt” by Mr. Hototogisu have painfully conveyed to me.

I think temples are public places. Toilets are also used by couriers, postmen, and passers-by. I think it's nice that the precincts are bustling with the voices of students. It used to be a playground for kids in the neighborhood.

Occasionally, people who are not invited may come, so temples are also careful in terms of management. Because offerings and Buddha statues may disappear.

They probably didn't have a relationship. It's a pity that the Buddha's relationship wasn't born.

In my sense

Hello. I'm a temple in Tokyo. Local groups called “Let's take a look around at local temples” (apparently hosted by the ward) often visit, but at some point, they began to come after making a notice. Also, children in the neighborhood are coming to practice baseball, soccer, and bicycles. This one is coming without any particular notice. Basically, the answer is “go ahead,” but please refrain when it overlaps with events. Also, when garbage is scattered, it will be closed for a while.
15 children... to be honest, I'd like you to let me know beforehand. Is it the same feeling as stopping by a park? If they were at least praying, I think they would be treated differently. The rest is frequency.
I don't know the regional pattern, and since Kochi is in the Kanto region in the first place, it is very likely that the senses will be different.
However, if there was a notice or refusal, I feel that it is a slight misunderstanding that they are visiting and feeling angry at the response. If it means “I feel sorry for the students,” I think we should do an investigation that's off the beaten track, but how about that.

Well, the site of a religious corporation is private property for the time being, isn't it?

If I had said one word, they might have been happy to say “go ahead.”
A temple is an institution of a religious corporation.
As the chief priest, he is also responsible for being entrusted with the management of the facility by members (followers) of the religious corporation, so if the building etc. is damaged due to an accident, it must be reported at the corporation's board meeting or general meeting of the religious family.
This is because in modern society, even temples with an old-fashioned appearance are made up of organizational management as a corporation.

Note that the above comments are not being made in defense of the temple's wife.
Anger is a source of stress, so I want you to calm down your anger and feel at peace by imagining the other person's (temple) position.

What the temple is looking for is not the spirit of visiting, but the spirit of worship

Hello, my name is Tange and I'm not Detective Conan.
My guess is that many people had come to that temple until then, which was probably a nuisance.
Actually, I also remember that when I went on a group tour at a Chinese temple, the ascetic monks seemed bothersome.
Everyone can sneak into a temple with a sense of sightseeing, observation, and observation, but I have experienced for the first time that people who come up with that kind of stance depending on the location are called Hatahatamewaku.
There are visitors and worshipers who come to tourist temples.
The other day, too, there was a “person who misunderstood that anything can be done in the name of faith” who came in between memorial services and gave sutras for a long time in front of the principal image.
Temples are not public facilities, but [semi-public facilities].
Because there are people who live there.
There are private ones too.
The other day, when a nearby elementary school came to pray, those people contacted me.
I think it doesn't have to be anything else, though.
However, I think that wife also wanted to say that the one who has it ❝ the heart goes through ❞ (whether that is the case or not, thinking so is a Buddhist ascetic practice that retracts self and justice here)
What I'm about to say is not a bad thing to say. I'm asking you to listen carefully and understand that, oh, the human world is like that.
Almost every person in the position of educator has lofty ideals. It's the same for us monks.
Since we always try to be in a humane position as educators, justice is sometimes a priority. For that reason, it seems that when you see someone who is contrary to your own justice and ideals, a repulsive feeling similar to a sense of rejection is somehow born.
Let's throw that out and just think about it normally.
Let's think, “Oh, even though it's a temple, from the standpoint of a married woman, it's certainly not a tourist temple, and she went in without permission and assumed that this was a just position because she had children, but if you think about it carefully, it was lacking if you say that it lacked courtesy.”
That is not ❝ visiting a temple ❞, but the spirit of reverence of ❝ praying ❞.
Please visit the shrine with the feeling that you want to uphold your own justice.
What is “what” when you open that door?

There are also temples that aren't like that.

Even if it's the same region or denomination,
Depending on the chief priest's way of thinking,
The management and atmosphere of the temple will completely change.
If you think “temples are for parishioners,”
You wouldn't want other people to come.
That temple probably thinks like that.
But I can't decide whether it's good or bad.

There are also temples that think “temples are for the community,”
It might be a good idea to look for another temple.

There are probably many ways of looking at it, but I think we should say hello

 I don't know just by asking how often they have taken walks and taken a break in the temple grounds, but if a group of a certain size visits regularly and uses hand washing, I think it would be good to have prior consent or greetings after use. It's my personal opinion, even if I get tired of it.

When visiting a temple as part of a class of exploring the area around the school in elementary school, the school will call you beforehand, and teachers will come to say hello on the day. When a middle-aged and elderly group exploring local history visits our temple while strolling around Teramachi, a guide will come to explain beforehand.

I think it would be difficult to be led by students as staff at a special needs school, and in terms of traffic safety, I think it's safer to take a walk in the temple grounds. It's nice to see the students having fun running around and having fun. For that reason, the words said by the temple there may have felt like being poured with water.
Teachers will be happy to see the students running around. However, it is not assumed that children will run around in the temple grounds like a park or schoolyard. Maybe there were times when the flowers in the precincts were trampled upon. I think there were times when shoemarks were attached to the sandway that had been cleaned up, and crushed stone was scattered. If you use it as a group, the way you stain your bathroom is also different. If it's once or twice, I don't think I'll complain. If you take regular breaks and wash your hands, I think it's polite to say hello on the day or say thank you when you get home, even if you don't contact them in advance. I think showing students how to greet them firsthand is also an education.


Temples exist for the sake of the community,

I think this is different depending on the individual temple. Our temple coexists with the local community and cooperates with the local community, but I don't think it “exists for the sake of the community.” Basically, our temple exists for believers, and at the same time, we are making efforts so that many people can have relationships with the Buddha and open its doors widely. Being told, “Isn't it OK for anyone to come and go freely and use the toilet freely?” feels like your values are being imposed on you. Toilets in temple grounds are sometimes used as public toilets, and I think there are also cases where toilets are for worshipers until they get tired of it.

Isn't it just a matter of contacting them?

I always take a walk with my students as work, and if they stop by that temple to use the restroom, I think it's natural to contact them.
Toilets are provided for worshipers, and they are not made for everyone who needs them.
Of course, it doesn't go so far as not to use it, but I think it's still a matter of moderation.
I think it's a bit of a problem that there are no greetings or contacts even though so many people use it regularly and frequently.
“Can I use it?” I think it's common sense as a member of society to take care to say one word.
I thought we could maintain a good relationship with each other with that one word.

※We also have toilets, but installation costs are not cheap at all, and maintenance costs are unexpectedly high.
Since everything is made up of alms and donations from parishioners, it is basically prohibited for anyone other than worshipers to use it.
But that doesn't mean it has a key and there are no standing signs, so it's in a state where you can use it freely...