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About Jakucho Setouchi

I'm indebted to you

I became interested in being a monk

I did a few searches

I'm talking about Jakucho Setouchi

I didn't know the details

A pretty muddy romance (affair?) etc.
I knew it had been done, and honestly, I fell for it

I don't like it anymore

I saw a post saying they eat meat too

Is it bad for monks to eat meat?

I don't know much detail m () m

Seen from a monk

What do you think of “Setouchi Jakucho-san”?

Also, it seems that if you become a monk, a very painful ascetic practice awaits

What makes for a very difficult ascetic practice?

I'm interested, so please tell me m () m

I look forward to working with you

3 Zen Responses

Hello.

The affair was with “Setouchi Harumi” before becoming a monk, and “Setouchi Jakucho,” who became a disciple of the Buddha, did not have an affair. The story of “Angrimala” is famous for the idea of becoming a disciple of the Buddha and being “reborn.”
https://hasunoha.jp/questions/13751
(See my answer to this question)

There is a monk's commandment called “immortality,” but this is not a “carnivorous cult.”
Those that satisfy “I haven't seen a place to be killed” (unseen), “haven't heard that they were killed for themselves” (unheard), and “don't doubt that they were killed for themselves” (unquestionably) are considered “three kinds of pure meat” and are good to eat.
On the other hand, this is not limited to Jakucho, but I think it would be nice for a monk to go out of his way to profess “I eat meat” on the internet.

As for Jakucho Setouchi, I haven't read any books, and I haven't heard the Dharma, so I don't really understand it.

Is it ascetic practice? I don't write it because it's a memory I don't really want to remember, but I was cornered both physically and mentally. On the other hand, there are people who stay for a long time, so I think everyone has a different way of feeling it.

Use good things as references and throw away bad things

I read it.
I think it is wonderful that you are interested in Buddhism, become a monk, and practice Buddhism.
I don't think it has much to do with Mr. Setouchi and your quest for directions like that.

Setouchi is a novelist who experienced the rough seas of various lives and then became a monk.
After all, they are active as celebrities and have made various appearances on TV, so I think they have an influence. It certainly stands out because they say they like eating meat, but that's not limited to Setouchi. TV shows up in a funny and funny way no matter what, so I think only that part will be taken up in a big way.
When I think about myself and Mr. Setsukiuchi, I think it's just about being a senior in life and being a senior in Buddhist training.

Since they each seek a path and are encouraged to practice Buddhism, being a senior a little ahead doesn't change anything as a Buddhist disciple.

So I don't think you need to worry too much about it.

However, I think it is necessary to take a close look at Buddhist religious thoughts and statements from now on.
If it's a wonderful teaching or way of life as a Buddhist, you should refer to it as a good role model. If not, I don't think it's necessary to use it as a reference.

So I don't think I care about Setouchi-san in a sense.

You have a relationship with Buddhism in your life from now on. You can go ahead and become a monk, and I think it's okay if you stay at home and continue studying Buddhism.

We are people studying Buddhism together. Please take good care of your Buddha relationship and pray for your devotion.

There is a misunderstanding, but monks eat meat.

Nice to meet you. My name is Shima Daisei
It's not about Jakucho Setouchi (an individual called)
I will answer about carnivorous food

It's widely misunderstood, but monks eat meat.

Buddha, who is a leading expert in Buddhism, talks about monks' meals
They say “eat all the food you received in the allotment bowl without leaving anything behind (translation),” and there are no questions about the ingredients.
Also about meat
“Don't eat the meat of animals slaughtered to give to the monks themselves.
Thus, for example, if a monk were treated with leftovers from meat dishes eaten in ordinary households,
It says “eat without leaving anything behind (translation)”

In Indian Buddhism, monks obtained food only through alms.
This is because monks did not do production activities, and specialized only in religious rituals and ascetic practices.
Therefore, the rules described above were established for food.

Also, monks were prohibited from farming because they would kill insects in the soil.
Private property is also prohibited, so you can't pay your own money to buy meals.

However, as the times passed and Buddhism spread to China, things changed slightly.
At first, monks who came to China were able to eat according to food rules, with the support of the king, etc., but allotment, which is a culture unique to India, was not easily accepted in China, and the monks themselves were forced to pick wild vegetables in mountain forests and start farming.
Since it is a self-sufficient lifestyle, in order to obtain meat, the monks “kill animals for themselves.” That's why I lived a meatless life

Furthermore, time passed, and Buddhism was imported into Japan during the time of Prince Shotoku.
In this era, for Japan, China was a “teacher who taught cutting-edge foreign culture”

Therefore, Japanese Buddhism in the early days also imitated the eating style of Chinese Buddhism,
In Japan during the Meiji period that followed,
Monks grow their hair, have a marriage/family, have property, and eat meat
The ban was lifted by the government, and after all, in modern times

It is said to “leave it up to individual discretion and way of thinking”

People around me say “they don't eat four-legged creatures”
“I don't eat meat on memorial days” or “Segaki and Higan don't eat” etc.
There are also monks who swear to themselves the rules for eating meat at their own discretion.