hasunoha

When good deeds cause others to suffer

Of course, don't bully or misconduct with malicious intent,

However, actions with good intentions or actions taken without malice are directed against others

Even when it causes physical or mental pain,

Will it be my own crime

It's ironic, but even the monk's words depend on who listens to them

It can be both poison and medicine, and some people commit suicide because of that teaching

I think there are people who want to live

When you cause others to suffer due to acts of good, according to Buddhist ideas

What is a good way to deal with it

4 Zen Responses

I don't know the two things right and evil in general (Shoisho, Shinya)

I read your consultation. I think what you said is true. There are many things we humans do that make our partner suffer, even if we think it's good.

That's because we are ordinary people (bonbu). The Jodo Shinshu view of humanity is that an ordinary man is a person who is angry and angry until the time they die.

These various afflictions are based on fundamental ignorance called ignorance (ignorance). Ignorance means you don't understand. What I don't understand is right and wrong. The fact that you don't know what is good and what is bad is what an ordinary person looks like.

In terms of Buddhism, it can be said that getting close to enlightenment and nirvana is good, and staying away is bad. However, we have no shortage of judgments about what is good and what is bad, and even if it is an act that we believe is good and is generally presumed to be a good act according to Buddhist interpretations, if the recipient doesn't have a Buddhist interpretation and only seems to be able to receive it in a secular way, it may cause suffering for the other party.

If it were Shakyamuni, he would probably give an appropriate sermon according to his opponent's kikon (kikon) = “ability or situation,” but that's not the case because we are ordinary people, even if we are monks.

Therefore, it may also be said that there is no way to “deal” with what has been done. Once you've done it, there's no shortage of things you can get back.
That doesn't mean you won't do anything; it's important to apologize and make amends as much as possible based on shame or repentance.

That is why it is essential that we awaken to the true form of ourselves, where each of our actions is good or bad, rather, we have fundamental ignorance called ignorance, in other words, our existence itself is sinful, and we don't know what to do depending on the relationship.

That path is called Monho in the Jodo Shinshu sect. If you can't do anything until you realize it yourself, it's not that you open up and don't do anything, you don't put on an enlightened face and act like you're going to save others, and it's a listening method and title hoping that I and everyone else will meet as people who will be saved together.

I have also received harsh responses in Hasunoha's response, and I have also received letters of protest. It was a really tough and thankful relationship.
I would be happy if I could continue to encounter teachings with all of you in the future.

“Repentance (Sangemon)” and “Living Apart from Good and Evil.”

We recite the term repentance (Sangemon), but do you know it?
“If you think you've done something wrong, repent. If you feel sorry, let's put our hands together and reflect on it.”
For the most part, that's what it means.

but as you said
It's also likely that what you thought would be good made your opponent suffer.
Buddhism explains that even when we do good things, we don't know if our suffering will go away because in the end we always deal with things with our own heart.

So rather
We must repent only when we have done good deeds.
probably.
Isn't it necessary to say that in terms of Buddhism? and I feel it.

If you say something like that, you might think “wow negative.”
But it's pretty bright. I'd rather do it
Because “I did good things” myself is getting bigger and bigger
After all, “I did such a good thing!” I think that feelings and suffering will spread around the person themselves, and they will become humble.
The beginning is fine. I think “I'm happy too, I'm happy for you” is the best that that person can do individually.

But after all, be careful not to go too far.
I think the Buddha taught me that.
Rather than being good or bad
Is it a relationship of trust between that person and the other person? What does the other person have or are they suffering from? It probably depends on whether or not you can take care of it within a reasonable range and empathize with it.

To that end, I think that kind of “repentance” mentality is the best.
This is because putting the other person first is a heart where you won't be bothered.
It really would be easier if that happened.

Not limited to “when you cause suffering to others due to acts of good”
If you can live that way
I think you can get used to the mentality of “living apart from right and wrong” shown by Buddhism.

What if I myself did alms as part of fundraising
I've been yelled at by people passing by.
I think it can be painful
At times like that, I think it would be nice if I could always learn from suffering and move forward
I hope so.

Right and wrong checks make oneself and others suffer

More people should be aware that “you can't live a perfect life.”

Let's say someone gave you frozen salmon. But let's say you didn't like salmon. What would you think then?

People who take the perfect present for granted say, “What is this disgusting? They would say, “That's a rude guy.” On the other hand, if you know you can't live a perfect life, you'll say, “Oh, that's a difficult present. There is there.” I think you'll be able to take good care of it.

So what do we do with that salmon? If we don't want to be perfect for each other, then we have to put up with it and eat. So again, “I was forced to do something I didn't like. He's rude.” “They weren't happy to eat it. He's rude.” It would be bad. But if they think we can't live perfectly with each other, they say, “I'm sorry, but let's get people who like salmon to eat more.” You can turn it around. The person who gave it also said, “It can't be helped. Nor can I give a perfect present. That is the recipient's freedom, and I'm not talking about it. Let's keep in mind that person doesn't like salmon for the next time.” Like that, you can forgive both your partner and yourself.

Which society is easy to live in? Naturally, it is a society where we forgive each other, in other words, a society where we know that we cannot live perfectly.

There is a saying that everything is suffering. Suffering is not “painful, painful,” and it means “not going the way you want” (dukkha). In other words, as long as you think “let's do whatever you want” or “make it perfect,” you are the ones who suffer no matter where or what you do.
More importantly, as long as you have that kind of way of thinking, you will become people who are stingy on Buddha and even Nirvana based on their own standards, keep their own salvation away, and cause shortness of breath to society. That “stinginess based on one's own standards” means “everything born (action) is painful,” right?

Buddhism should not be used to grade others or check sheets to find mistakes. If the number of such people increases, it will become a cramer society. We should learn Buddhism in order to let go of perfection, and Japan should move towards more tolerance.

The act itself is empty (wow)

Hello. My name is Kameyama Junshi.

Just as poison can also be used as medicine depending on the person, it is not “good deeds to begin with.” Sometimes poison becomes medicine, and sometimes medicine becomes poison. When poison becomes medicine, that poison is not evil. When medicine becomes poison, medicine is not good. Therefore, it would be necessary to determine whether it was a good act retrospectively from the results. The act itself is empty (wow). It's neither good nor bad. Therefore, even if it is an act done with good intentions, if it causes suffering to the person who received it, it cannot be said that it is an act of good for that person. Conversely, even if it is the same act, it will be an act of good for those who use it as medicine.

We will “do good deeds.” “Let's not do bad deeds.” Let's say it. That is very important and precious. However, “I did a good act.” Don't be bound by that thought. “It was a good act.” It is probably up to the person who received the act to decide.

These are my answers. Please use it as a reference.