hasunoha

Doesn't Amida Nyorai actually exist?

I love Amida Nyorai.
I recite nembutsu every day as a thank you for being saved. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of questions and answers at Hasunoha.

However, the other day, in Hasunoha, a monk of the Shinshu sect responded to people who “don't believe that there is a Pure Land of Paradise,” saying, “Amida Nyorai and the Pure Land are jobs, and it probably doesn't mean that people who actually died will be reborn in a place called the Pure Land. That's why the Pure Land is a function in this world, and I don't think it exists as a world after death.” “I use a fairy tale called Buddha to gain peace in this life. So it doesn't matter if Amida Nyorai actually exists or not.” “I'm also scientifically skeptical about the world of the Pure Land of Paradise.”

I saw that you said something to that effect. I saw not just one, but several monks saying such things.

I don't want you to misunderstand me, but I respect Hasunoha monks. But I was quite shocked. This is because I was happy that if I died in this life, Amida would pick me up and be born in the Pure Land of Paradise, and I would be able to practice ascetic practices to become a Buddha there.

Also, no matter what happens, it is a joy and a source of emotional support for Amida Nyorai to always be with me.

When I listen to Dharma stories, I think both the sutras and Shinran clearly say, “There is a wonderful Buddha called Amida Nyorai (= Amida Nyorai actually exists)” and “when you die, you will go to the Pure Land of Paradise and become a Buddha (= Pure Land of Paradise actually exists).”

Isn't it the Jodo Shinshu that is convinced of the existence of Amida Nyorai and the Pure Land of Paradise?

Since I originally studied Christianity, I'm worried that Amida Nyorai and the interpretation of the Pure Land of Paradise might be different.
(The Pure Land of Paradise and Heaven, and the Pure Land of Paradise is the country of Amida Nyorai (each of the other Buddha statues have their own Pure Land). I understand that's the difference)

Is it OK for me to think that I will always be with Amida from now on?

7 Zen Responses

I have no choice but to believe

The sutras say that there is Amitabha Buddha and the Pure Land of Paradise.
Therefore, in the doctrine of the Jodo sect based on the sutras, Amida Buddha actually exists.
So the question is whether to believe or not to believe that scripture, I think it's an individual matter.
There are times when I doubt it too.
However, there was also a day when Amida appeared in my dream and I was deeply moved.
According to a book called Tsurenkusa, it seems that Honen Shonin was told, “If you doubt it, you can pass away if you are nembutsu.”
Yes, that's right.
If Amitabha really does exist, he won't abandon me, even if I have doubts.
Also, Tokumoto Shonin, who was popular in the Edo period, said, “You can say Namu Amida Buddha at the tip of your mouth. It was a poem called “Can You Say It Without Your Heart?”
I see, the fact that nembutsu comes out of your mouth may be proof that you have faith somewhere in your heart.
That's because if you have zero faith, you shouldn't be able to perform nembutsu.
Anyway, why don't you value the ascetic practice called koto nenbutsu, which is physically easy to understand?

It's not “scientific,” and it's not “sure.”

Hello.

Your feeling of “I love Amida Nyorai” is condensed into the expression “It is a joy and emotional support for me that no matter what happens.” I am also very pleased to see it.

First of all, I don't understand the specific relevant questions and answers that “the monk of Shinshu in Hasunoha” answered in the past as a premise for the answer. Therefore, I would like to discuss the answer of “Shinshu Monk” as far as you have accepted it.

First, even if you say “Shinshu,” they are not necessarily the same teachings. Nishi Honganji Temple, Higashi Honganji Temple, Kosho school, Takada school, Kibe school, Izumoji school... or independent temples that do not belong to either faction have different positions. Please check the monk's position in response.

What bothered you the most when you accepted it was that “I am also scientifically skeptical about the world of the Pure Land of Paradise.” The methodology is different between Buddhism and “science.” We assume that we will face each other subjectively one-on-one based on the existence of the Buddha, but the latter has a completely different approach of judging based on evidence, that is, objective evidence such as experiments and statistics. To put it bluntly, the rules are different.

“Scientifically, the world of paradise is skeptical” is like a soccer referee telling a baseball player that you used your hands, isn't it? It's not a small mistake.

On the other hand, it is also wrong to say that you are “convinced of the existence of Amida Nyorai and the Pure Land of Paradise”. The devotion of the Jodo Shinshu sect is called devotion because it is originally the heart of the Buddha. We don't care about the human spirit of hard work. Amita-sama will always let you pass away in paradise and hear the Buddha's heart trying to attain Buddhism through your ears (← important!) I have faith because I don't believe it. It is impossible for the results of the Pure Land of the Past to be influenced by the degree of perfection of “conviction” from believers.

Rather, if such human “conviction” is used as a source of death, gradation will occur in the state of “conviction” (strong belief, weak belief) of humans. So, does the intensity of that “conviction” make a difference in the paradise we go to? This is clearly different.

You say, “You can always think that you will always be with Amita-sama from now on.” However, I sincerely ask that you do not miss the hearing as before and that you listen, listen, and thoroughly listen to the devotion that is the cornerstone of paradise (character limit)

10 billion prescriptions for 10 billion people 10 billion ways of salvation for 10 billion people

Even with the same body pain, that person has leg pain, that person has stomach pain, and that person has head pain.
There are prescriptions for each person, and medicines for each person.
Medications given to other people are not directed at you.
Also, with people who are good in the way you think salvation is,
There are people who say that won't save me.
There are people in the humanities, and there are also people in science.
There are people who think in general terms, and there are also people who think in a unique and unique way of thinking.
If a child doesn't have Santa, it would be strange to be a kid.
However, Santa works properly all over the world.
The important thing is that everyone is saved.
Everyone should be able to notice the kindness, salvation, and benefits of gifts.

So, you say you say “this is it!” That conviction, and I think it would be nice if you could be saved in your own way of wanting to be saved.
and “huh? What about that girl?” Why does it have to be saved the same way I did? I don't need that. This is because there are actually people in this world who are not effective with the same medicine as you.
Amida, Kannon, and Yakushi Nyorai all appear everywhere. It's not just in a place called the Pure Land of Paradise.
Simply put, there is a feeling that even Twitter tweets were directed at people in a certain field. A person who has nothing to do with that person at all picks up that one word and asks, “Why are you saying this?” There is no need to draw them to me and get involved like they are mine.
Just know that salvation comes in many forms.
Christianity is Christianity.
In Buddhism, depending on the denomination, each is tailored to that person, and that person says, “If this path, this method, this reason is right for me.” You can choose what you think and lead yourself to salvation.
To those who want to be saved right now in this world, they are working to save in a form suitable for that person, and they are extending a helping hand. For you, in a form that suits you.
For example, let the mother speak words to siblings with different personalities according to each child so that each child feels comfortable. Strangely enough, each person is seeking different ways of being, so I have salvation for you. Naturally, there are convenient and ad hoc theories that suit everyone.

Is it Amida Nyorai and the Pure Land of Paradise, or the Incarnation Earth

Ecclesiastes

Amida Nyorai does not exist as an entity (there is no exception for being lucky and empty), but she exists in the Pure Land of Paradise as a reward Buddha.

However, there is a very difficult discussion about whether this is true in the land of revenge or incarnation.

Even in Chinese and Japanese Buddhism, there are various debates about the Tendai sect the incarnation theory, the Shingon sect the Hokushin Hodo theory, and the Jodo lineage.

However, when it comes to discussions about whether Amida Nyorai falls within the three bodies of the Buddha in the Pure Land of Paradise in the first place, it is because there is a serious meaning in Paradise Pledge and Gokuraku Rebirth.

As a basis in Buddhism, those who can be seen as Bosatsu and Hoshin Buddha are those in the eighth place or higher who have decided their afflictions and been freed from reincarnation within the ten steps of the Bodhisattva, which shows that this is only possible for those who are quite holy and have pure karma.

It's because it's impossible for a normal person to look very close.

Bosatsu and Nyorai, which can be seen even by ordinary people, are impossible without responding to that, like Shakyamuni, who actually lived in the Shaba world. (Of course, response is a body similar to ours, etc., which is extremely fragile, ephemeral, and cannot hold up. (Of course, if you want to hold on, it's not impossible to hold on, but there is still a limit)

In other words, if it is the land of revenge, we, ordinary people, have passed away so much that we cannot see each other. If you pass away in paradise and want to see Amida Nyorai, it's impossible without being a saint who determined affliction, in other words, on par with Arakan.

Naturally, it is impossible to die in the Pure Land just by reciting nembutsu, vows, and mantras, as in the Japanese Pure Land system. This is because it is impossible to determine affliction without considerable wisdom and good fortune (merit). (In Exoteric Buddhism, it takes at least two great priests)

However, if it is incarnation earth, there is a possibility that even we ordinary people can be seen in the same way as Shakyamuni's response.

If you preach Shomyo Nembutsu Gokuraku Regeneration like the Pure Land system in Japan, then it can be said that the incarnation of the Earth is actually more correct.

Since Shomyo Nembutsu Gokuraku Osei is positioned as an “unfinished sense” (convenient doctrine) in the Mahayana Shingon theory and Shakumaya theory, there are no further discussions in the Shingon system.

Gassho

Don't be misled by human words

Below, I may write something a bit confusing, so I'll start with my conclusion. There is no doubt that Amida Buddha is in the Western Pure Land (this is a different world from ours where Gautama Buddha lived) and “I will always be with Amida from now on.”

First, it is said that “scientifically, the world of the Pure Land of Paradise is skeptical” and “it doesn't matter whether Amida Nyorai actually exists or not,” but it is necessary to move forward with the idea one more step. Whether or not there is Amitabha Buddha or the Pure Land is not something that can be objectively discussed. Scientifically speaking, there is certainly no evidence that either Amitabha or the Pure Land exists. However, there's no evidence that it doesn't exist. Therefore, the correct answer is that we don't know whether it exists scientifically or not. For example, newly discovered organisms have not been known to exist until now. However, that creature has existed until now. We just didn't know until we discovered it.

In short, no one knows what happens after death. However, Shinran's idea of salvation by Amitabha Buddha was wonderfully thought out. In other words, the process of abandoning one's own strength and returning it to others overlaps with the practice of inselfishness, which is the core of Buddhism. Also, when we are made aware of our own strength or worry, and when we become aware of our malevolence, the true identity that makes us notice it is Amida Buddha, and we use it as proof of its existence. The argument for the existence of Amitabha Buddha is interesting, and it seems that we cannot discover it even if we search for it or discuss it, and we can touch on its existence through introspection.

No one knows what happened after death. However, as described above, according to Shinran, there is an entity that makes us aware of our afflictions, and it seems that the subject is Amida Buddha. Amitabha is in the Western Pure Land, and I don't know why, but thankfully, it seems that he is trying to save us. If that's the case, I don't know what comes after death, and I don't think that the entity that bothers to make me notice my worries will do anything wrong, and I think it would be better to leave it to Amitabha Buddha.

I think I'm always with Amitaba-sama.

My biological father passed away the other day
That biological father is also by my side as a Buddha
There is a feeling that they are there.

Proof that it actually exists
it's scientifically impossible
I don't care about that.

by believing in mysterious things
If you can really understand yourself
I think that's enough.

What you see differs depending on how you look at it

There is a fable handed down in Buddhism where people who are blind and who had never known an elephant are gathered and let them touch that it is an elephant, some people think the elephant is like a log (they probably touched its foot), and others think it's like a broom (they probably touched its tail)...
Within Buddhism, there is also analysis of mind and matter (from space to subatomic states) that is more precise than modern science, there is ethics, logic, and political economy, and law for living at home.
The Mahayana sutras are probably classified as literary works based on Buddhism, which have been known in Jataka since early Buddhism.
Compared to science and political economy, etc., where results are required, literature is somewhat acceptable to the recipient's subjective acceptance. It is also possible to look at it in a religious way. In that sense, it can also be said that “Amida Nyorai actually exists for me.” From a historical point of view, it's literary, so I have to say that it doesn't actually exist.
I think it is a difference in the viewers' positions that the intention is to look at the same thing, and various ways of looking at it arise.
After looking at what Buddhism as a whole says, like what elephants in general are like, you can focus on what you are attracted to, such as “I particularly like that nose.” If that's the case, even if other people say, “An elephant is a broom,” you'll know, “Oh, that person is looking at that part of an elephant,” and you'll be able to calm down.