hasunoha

About one's own death

Surrounding me are three friends, cousins, and a friend's daughter who took their own lives. It's so sad and heartbreaking to think about it.
I often hear that the souls of people who have taken their own lives will continue to suffer forever, so I wonder if those 3 people are still suffering even after death?
It hurts my heart just thinking about it.
What does Buddhism teach about such souls?
Also, I would like you to tell me how to heal my own grief, how to heal the grief of a family closer to me, and how to call out. Different from when I lost someone close to me due to illness, etc., I spend my days feeling a tremendous sense of loss and heartache that has eaten away at my body

5 Zen Responses

People who have committed suicide do not suffer in particular

Neko-sama

Last year (Heisei 24), the number of suicide deaths in Japan finally fell below 30,000 per year, but it is still at a high level in terms of population ratio.
However, the fact that as many as 3 people around them have taken their own lives, I think they have a painful and painful feeling.

I've heard that people who committed suicide still suffer after death, so you're worried. What do you think of Neko?

The position may differ depending on the denomination and the monks, but I don't think that's the case.
I believe that it is the Buddha who saves everything equally regardless of birth, upbringing, way of life, and death.

However, even with that said, bereaved families of people who died by suicide are exposed to various kinds of grief and suffering in addition to the grief of simply losing a family member.
There is also ignorance and prejudice around them, and there are also many bereaved families who blame themselves. Some people even say, “I'm envious of those who lost their family due to illness, because they can hold a grudge against illness.”

There is no way to heal that deep sadness right away, but there are gatherings of families of people who have died by suicide in various places. It might be a good idea to go to such a meeting.

I also belong, and there is also a meeting called the “Association of Monks Facing Suicide and Suicide,” which works with cross-sectarian monks.
http://www.bouzsanga.org/

We also accept monthly meetings, annual memorial services, and letter consultations.
I hope you find it helpful.

You can always go to the Pure Land of Paradise

Hello Neko.

My name is Hirofumi Inoue from hasunoha. I am also one of those who lost a friend by suicide.

Now, what the deceased was unable to do for them is called “conversion” in Buddhism.

Please sing lots of nembutsu in place of Neko's deceased person.

The deceased can always go to the Pure Land of Paradise.

Namuami dabutsu

“Immortal Life Slayer”

Neko-sama

This is Kawaguchi Hidetoshi. This is a humble answer to the question.

How should “murder” be grasped in Buddhism, which preaches “immortality”...

My poor investigation is still in progress, but as I think about the Tibetan self-immolation suicide protest, which currently has over 100 people, along with the “curse murder” in the history of esoteric Buddhism, I think they have treated it in a humble and sincere manner until now.

Katsuyoshi Handy Memo Series
http://togetter.com/li/456916
Especially in Nos. 3 and 4

This is my current humble opinion, but although “murder” is basically something that should be denied from a Buddhist standpoint, I think it is possible that there are cases where it is permissible to the extreme as an act of altruism or good virtue based on definite mercy.

However, the question is whether that “murder” can really be recognized by Buddhism (wisdom of enlightenment) as the scope of altruism and good deeds based on certain “mercy.” I believe it is undeniable that judging from ordinary people who cannot know what Buddhism is like is extremely dangerous.

Of course, even from the judgment of ordinary people, I know that if it can clearly be taken as a “murder” caused by distress or ignorance (fundamental ignorance), it may be possible to infer that the consequences of “bad work” will not be spared.

It may be a harsh point of view, but in reality, when it comes to whether there are cases where “murder” based on mercy from Buddhism and wisdom is established in this human path... I can only say from my current humble life that it is extremely difficult...

Of course, “murder” includes suicide/murder, and killing of living creatures (animals)... it is an honest reality that no one can spend time in the human world without killing a living thing...

The problem is that we must reduce that “bad work” as much as possible and think about how “bad karma” can be purified by accumulating “good karma.”

As one convenience, I'm thinking that memorial services and merit conversion will work. I know that the “turnaround” mentioned by Hirokazu Inoue also depends on that. I'm sorry for the character limit, but I'm sorry for making it this far...

Kawaguchi Hidetoshi Gassho

To Neko-sama

At the “NPO corporation suicide prevention network style” to which I belong,
People like you talk about their heart through phone calls, emails, and even interviews.
Please feel free to bring your questions there as well.
A monk with specialized knowledge will kindly ask you what is in your heart.
First, please call the Tokyo office of “NPO corporation Suicide Prevention Network Style.”
Or you can go to us.

The address is as follows.
http://www.soudannet-kaze.jp/

The magnitude of suffering is the depth of love.

Nice to meet you, Neko.

My father passed away in 2002.

I don't know why.

“If I were the eldest son, I would surely understand why!” That enthusiasm changed its shape before I knew it, and the answer was “I don't know.”

What I understood (realized) as “something I don't understand” changed me.

I'm still sad now. It's lonely. I shed more and more tears when I forget it. So is my family. It will surely last a lifetime.

However, I don't have the slightest idea that my father is still suffering. As for his father, who came across the teachings of Nembutsu and has been kept alive, nothing has wavered in Amida's character.

It's a bit rough, but I myself don't think “I want you to be healed.”

In my case, I don't think I can stay friends if I find out that my friend is trying to heal me. However, when you feel sad or lonely, I want you to accept it. Normally, I don't even want them to do anything. However, just remembering my father once in a while and doing well is really enough.

I just hope that my friends who know my sorrow and those who have come into contact with the grief of suicide will be able to face their own lives and lives seriously and say “I'm glad I was born.”

I'm sorry that I just talked about myself.
I tried to respond as honestly as possible.

Until we can say “I'm glad I was born,” the lives of those who have passed away will continue.