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What does it mean to quiet Nanmu Amida Buddha

My family is a member of the Jodo sect.
The Jodo sect (I think the Jodo Shinshu sect is the same) understands the idea that “if you just chant Namu Amida Buddha, when you die, Amida will appear and take you to the Pure Land, where you will gain enlightenment and be saved.”

However, no matter what, it leaves a haze in my heart.

I think “if you sing Namu Amida Buddha, you will be taken to the Pure Land, and you will gain enlightenment (= you will be saved),” it will mean that “people who don't sing Namu Amida Buddha will not attain enlightenment (= not saved).”

I don't think Amida is saying, “I won't save what I don't believe in or what I don't believe in.” I don't think he's that narrow-minded.

I think you're probably saying, “What you believe in can be saved, but I'll save people who don't believe,” but when that happens, the question arises as to whether there really is any point in chanting “Namu Amida Buddha,” and if you can be saved whether you sing or not, why is it “good to chant Namu Amida Buddha.”

In other words

“If you don't sing Namu Amida Buddha, you can't be saved” → is Amida such a narrow-minded person?

“You can be saved even if you don't sing Namu Amida Buddha” → then why is it necessary to sing Namu Amida Buddha?

I feel like I've fallen into a dilemma called board shears.

I would like to hear the monk's opinion on this, thank you.

12 Zen Responses

Because I sincerely invite Amida-sama and ask

I read it. I understand what you're saying very well. You run into questions like that, don't you think?

So what does Namu Amida Buddha mean in the first place?

Namu... please! Please save me!
Amitabha Buddha is... in other words, Amitabha.
First of all, the words that sincerely ask us to correctly guide us to the country of Amitabha Buddha, that is, the Western Pure Land of Paradise is Namu Amida Buddha.
When people ask someone to do something, they also call that person's name, right? ○○-san says, please, right?
So please, Amita-sama, please save me, but after all, it is important to firmly praise Amida's name.
The one who can lead you to the Western Pure Land of Paradise is not Jesus, the God of Jehovah, or the God of Allah.
It is only because I ask you to save me by calling Amitabha's name with all my heart, that Amida can lead me to paradise, meet close people, and learn the correct teachings directly from Amida, so everyone can attain Buddhism, right?
Life is fraught with hesitation. Please keep it in mind, and please humbly practice Nembutsu from the bottom of your heart.
The nenbutsu you put your true heart into will surely reach Amida.
Namu Amida Buddha.

For me, it's a thank you in return

The Amitabha Sutra says that if you hold the name of Amitabha Buddha in the hope of being born in the Pure Land of Paradise, Amida Buddha will pick you up when your life runs out.
Nembutsu is sung in the Jodo sect to maintain the name of Amida Buddha.
This is to keep a firm mind.
So, if you keep the name of Amitabha Buddha firmly in your heart, it will save you even if you don't chant it.
However, people's minds are easy to change.
In order to keep your name firm in your swaying heart, it is important to recite nembutsu on a daily basis.
It's like a boat floating in the ocean lowering its anchor so it isn't swept away by the waves.
So, for example, even people who can't make a voice due to illness can be saved if they keep it in mind.

Also, on the other hand, it is said that people who sing can be saved even if they don't believe it.
This is because in the act of chanting, a feeling of belief naturally develops, albeit little by little.
Amitabha clearly listens to that momentary feeling.

Amitabha vowed to save everyone. Nonetheless, as a matter of fact, there is no way to save people who don't ask for salvation at all from Amitabha Buddha.
However, if you want to be saved, if you want the Pure Land of Paradise, everyone can be saved.
Moonlight falls equally on everyone everywhere. However, if you don't look up at the moon, you won't be able to see its light.
To recite Nembutsu, or to keep the name of Amitabha in mind, is to look up at the moon.
And if we know that we are bathed in the moonlight, that is, we are being watched over by Amitabha Buddha, and if we want the Pure Land of Paradise, it's as if we were saved.
They always pass away in the Pure Land of Paradise.
It all depends on our heart.
Namu Amida Buddha

appending
People who don't recite nembutsu don't necessarily not get saved. There are also people in the world who aim for enlightenment with their own power, like Buddha.
There are also people who want a Pure Land other than the Pure Land of Paradise.
If you're a Christian, you'll want to go to heaven.
Everyone has their own path.

(thank you in return)
Thank you very much for your kind words.
In my opinion, people don't end up when they run out of lives. Even if you don't know Amida in this world, don't rely on her, don't pass away in paradise, and reincarnate somewhere, there is always an opportunity to be saved beyond that. This is because the light of Amida's mercy has reached all the world. If we recite nembutsu for such people, I think Amida will surely guide us.

Listen to Namu Amida Buddha

I read it. As you said,

The salvation of Amitabha Buddha did not give up. Since it is a salvation of “don't choose, don't hate, don't abandon,” everyone is eligible.
Amitabha Buddha has the meaning of “infinity of light” and the meaning of “infinity of life (life).” The light of salvation is falling on us forever, from the past to the future.

So as you said, you can't be saved by doing nembutsu. This is because the light has already arrived.
Namu Amida Buddha replies that the light has certainly arrived, and it is Nanmu Amida Buddha who appreciates that salvation.

So, what if you don't notice the light of salvation, and don't feel that it's arriving, so you haven't been nembutsu until then. You probably won't be able to nembutsu no matter how long it's been. So I'm telling you to do nembutsu even if you don't understand why.

I believe in the light of salvation to those who praise him as Namu Amida Buddha, and I appreciate Namu Amida Buddha where I believe.

Now, like you're asking, you don't know the meaning of Namu Amitabha Buddha. They are praising Namu Amida Buddha even though they don't know it.

The reason why onembutsu has been introduced is not because its teachings have been passed down; rituals play a large role. My parents, grandfather, and grandmother heard voices praising Namu Amida Buddha and the monk, and they knew Namu Amida Buddha.
Even if you don't know why, you participate in that history where you can claim to be Namu Amida Buddha.

That means listening to Namu Amida Buddha. It's not my act of being saved because I praise Namu Amida Buddha. It is an act of the Buddha who thinks that Amitabha will save me.
Numerous Buddhas and Bodhisattvas have praised Amitabha Buddha and told us to listen to his voice. Both your ancestors' nembutsu and yours will now work for those around you as the nembutsu of those various Buddhas. That's why I praise you.
Needless to say, the light is reaching both those who don't know Amitabha Buddha and those who doubt it. However, they sense salvation where they can trust that it has arrived, and people who try to drive away people who don't know the light cannot sense it. It's not that you can't be saved, it's that you can't feel saved.

So when it comes to the salvation of Namu Amida Buddha, it is also a major problem and the number of characters is insufficient, but it does not mean being saved after death. It's salvation “here and now.”
There are various discussions (present-day death, post-death, future rebirth, etc.) about the Pure Land of Ozei, but no matter when the timing is, the Pure Land works in the present.

In the Jodo Shinshu

Hello.
In the Jodo sect and the Jodo Shinshu, they seem to be similar and are viewed in different ways.
I'm a Jodo Shinshu monk, so I'll leave the doctrines of the Jodo sect to a professional.
Our “Namu Amida Buddha” is not a call to “please help me,” but “I will leave it to Amida.”
When you hear that we leave it up to you, you might think it's easy not to do anything, but our world is made up of supply and demand.
Nothing is more expensive than free.
If you work hard, you can get ahead; if you're lazy, you lose.
If you do good things, good things will come back; if you do bad things, bad things will come back... it is Amida who tries to save this kind of commonplace thing, even ignoring the truth called causal retribution in a sense.
In other words, it's the kind of person who says, “Is there such a good story... that's suspicious,” and there's a history where both Honen Shonin and Shinran Shonin were criticized for “spreading suspicious teachings.”
why? That's because Amida thinks of me as my own child.
It is natural for parents to raise their children. Just as people nurture people, a Buddha called Amida wraps them with a lot of love, saying that they raise them as children of the Buddha (mercy)
Children are like children, and live well to the fullest. They will show you the way (Buddhism) and things you don't know how to do properly (Buddhism) and things you don't know how to do
I don't want anything in return. In response to the kindness of always being there for you whether you're happy or sad, I said, “Understood. It only bothers me, but I value my life. I'll leave it up to Amida's wishes, saying “Thank you.”
I think the word conveying this is the name Namu Amida.
As you said, I think they'll save you even if you don't talk about it for the rest of your life.
I don't know if the timing of salvation is the end of death or the timing of reincarnation to another world.
However, Amida knows me. “It makes you uneasy when I say I'll save you even if you don't do anything. I regret it just before I die, God and Buddha... I don't want to die. I'm scared. it's amazing, isn't it? Can I feel a little relieved if I put a condition to sing Namu Amida?” I'm surprised that the Jodo Shinshu (Shinran Shonin) interpretation is that they are suggesting...
Namu Amida for the Jodo Shinshu sect is not a requirement for going to the Jodo, and it's like a parent-child conversation calling out thank you.
I was abused even though it wasn't the Jodo sect...
If you don't mind, please enjoy the interpretation of the Jodo Shinshu sect as well.

It's not like you're being forcibly taken to paradise

Anyone who wishes to be saved by Amitabha will be saved.
Nothing more, nothing less.

I would be happy to receive a bowl of ramen for all those who wish.
However, even people who don't want to eat ramen may feel bothered if ramen is sent to the homes of all citizens without permission.

All applicants will be elected.
He is a Buddha who has a big enough heart.

Namu Amida Buddha is not a condition for salvation; it is proof of salvation.

In the “Pure Land Sanbu Sutra” established by Honen, Amida (Hozo Bosatsu) says in the “Buddha theory Muryojukyo,” “I will responsibly pick up those who take my name when they die and take them back to the Pure Land. It is vowed that “if that cannot be realized, I will not become a Buddha” (“Welcome at the end of the day”). This is the 19th wish of Amitabha Buddha's 48 wishes.

Also, while Honen-sama cherished Amida's vows and wishes, other vows were also cherished. A typical example is, “Whoever takes my name will save all. I swear, “If that doesn't happen, I won't become a Buddha.” This is my 18th wish.

He also said, “Every Buddha in every world praises my name (Namu Amida Buddha) and recommends it to people in that world. There is also a vow that says, “If that doesn't happen, I won't become a Buddha.” This is number 17. As promised, the salvation of Amitabha Buddha is revealed in this world based on the Buddha's teachings.

The interpretations and explanations are slightly different between the current Jodo sect and the Jodo Shinshu sect, but when these are combined, “Amida always saves those who practice nembutsu.” So that's it. That is common.

When Honen was 43 years old, “Why can we be saved by Nembutsu?” It seems that the question has reached its peak in a sense. At that time, while reading the works of a person called Zendou Daishi from China over and over, he said, “I am saved by Namu Amida Buddha. I came across the phrase “because it is due to the Buddha's wishes (Junhi Buddha's Prayer)”.

“I don't get saved because I nembutsu, Amida saves me by delivering Namu Amida Buddha, that's all. The reason I can say that is because Amida's wish has been completed, and Namu Amida Buddha has arrived to me. This is proof of salvation.”

Amida doesn't save me because I say nembutsu, but instead saves me by making me sing nembutsu. Since they say nembutsu, they are not saved by Amida, but since they are saved by Amida, they are now able to sing nembutsu.

I can't be saved because I think and be convinced. Confirmation has nothing to do with salvation; there are no conditions, only evidence. Encountering Nembutsu is proof of salvation.

Additional note: What Amida does to others has nothing to do with Jack's salvation.

Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to others.

A lot of monks answered, so I jumped in and participated.
I learned a lot about Nembutsu.
Thank you, thank you. Let's go together.
Now, what are you worried about?

Saving everything = people who don't believe in nembutsu can also be saved.

I don't understand such a thing, and I have no way of knowing.

It's not about how others are, it's about yourself,
I think the question is faith.

I was able to do Nembutsu, and Amida was saved,
I'm going to take you to the Pure Land.
There's no room for others to say anything here.
For me who is stupid, honestly,
If I do nembutsu, will I be saved, or will I not be saved,
The truth is that even if you think about it, you don't understand it at all.

The splendid people, saints, and great ancestors called Shinran Shinto and Honen Shonin
You say there is salvation from Amida, so I just believe it.

This lousy person who doesn't even know my own tomorrow
What do you do when you worry extra about others without nembutsu?
Exactly, I'm at a loss. I have my doubts.

Apart from others, I have no choice but to lean on Amida.
I tried various practices, but at the end of the day, far from realizing it,
I'm depressed in a deeper sense of doubt, so I have no choice but to sit back.
Exactly, no matter what I risked my life to do, I wasn't saved,
After that, I'm going to follow Amida, asking him to do whatever he wants.

In this Shaba world, just because you pray doesn't mean you'll be cured of illness or injury.
Great peace of mind that when your life ends, you will quickly pass away in the Pure Land,
I think that is true salvation.

Even so, it is impossible to be as thorough as Kaisan,
I'm half-hearted, so
I can't help but pray for Amida's happiness right now.
Amida takes pity on me for being so lousy.

A Buddha is someone who is worshiped. Those who are worshiped guide those who worship, and an unwavering place of support

Jack

Hello, I took a look.
My name is Shakkeishin.
This is Bowes from the Jodo Shinshu sect.

This is a very important and fundamental question.
Many teachers have already given their responses, and I was happy to read them.

Oh, I'm so happy, the work of moving my mouth like this, which wasn't supposed to move if I thought about it, is coming to me right now.
Ah, I'm happy, I'm happy, when you honestly accept Namu Amida Buddha and the finished principal image as it is, it means Namo (Namu).
This is extremely important.

Why do I need to move my mouth with nammandabutsu or namo (no problem with namo or namo) namamidabutsu?

Also, is it necessary for me to do the work of finishing up the form of worship, such as throwing hands together and throwing five bodies on the ground?

This is to make me feel like a Buddha (Buddha) without fail. It can be said that this is because I am now settled into becoming a Buddha.

Salvation is born from a state of hesitation into a world of enlightenment. Be sure to stay home again.
Being able to enjoy that blessing now and not returning to a lost world is a benefit in this world. Now, since it is decided to become a Buddha, it is the benefit of this world.

I hear my voice called Nanmandabu and Namoamidab as a voice due to Amida's work.
I'm the one making the voice, but since it's Amida who makes it out, Namoamidabutsu came out only because Amida's work reached this mouth.
If Amita-sama hadn't been done to Amita-sama, my mouth would never have moved in a daze.
I'm not alone; Dad's mouth, grandpa's mouth, that person's mouth, this person's mouth, and everyone's mouth will never move unless the oath that Amida will be finished as Namu Amida Buddha in the first place is fulfilled.

What would happen if the voice of Namoamidabutsu reached the ears of children, grandchildren, and loved ones?
When I passed away, the mouths and figures of my children, grandchildren, and friends
They will surely clap their hands and have Namoamidabutsu nembutsu in their mouths.
Dad was doing Nanmandabuyu.
At that time, I didn't even understand the translation, and I thought it was a tough Mayakashi,
If you think about it, wasn't it thanks for making me look like a gassho today and in the form of a nembutsu?
At that time, I'm going to be made to be the one to be worshiped.

A world where you try to put yourself on your side

Namu Amida Buddha. Namuami dabutsu.
Thank you for the question and for giving me the opportunity to look back at Namu Amida Buddha once again.
I'm in a position where I'm not really particular about the subject “myself.”

For example, when a song comes on the radio,
who's singing? When asked, I think they often answer the singer's name.
I don't often hear people say that the radio is singing.
It's a sound coming from the radio, but singing is something else.
There is also such a way of looking at it.
From the viewpoint of not “my” Nanmandabutsu, but “Nyorai's” Nanmandabutsu
The feeling that Nyorai's mandabutsu came out through my mouth is perfect for me now.

By the way, your question
If you don't praise Namu Amida Buddha, you won't be saved. ... my ability is limited
If you praise Namu Amida Buddha, you will be saved. ... it can be called why.
Regarding the question

At the moment, if you're going to answer, if you're being praised, there's nothing wrong with praising them.
However, your teeth, tongue, and throat aren't always healthy until you're about to die.
Or they were happy when they praised Nembutsu, but their dementia-progressed behavior cancels out the appearance they had when they were in Nembutsu.
That's kind of lonely.
I'm not on the side that judges that they won't be saved, and I'm in a position where I want to work to be able to follow up so that they can be saved.
Things you can't say anymore won't break the relationship, and it's not Nyorai who abandons you. I believe that.

It's been over 30 years since I took the monk's last seat, and initially I was looking for perfection in Nyorai, but that's not the case now.
Rather than turning it upside down and blaming what's lacking, make up for what's lacking so it doesn't spill out. That's what it feels like.
There were many experiences where I felt saved by someone following me, even if I couldn't do it myself.
Even if there are people who can't speak due to physical characteristics, or even if they can't say Nembutsu themselves, I believe that there are people who worry or care about that person's future.
Furthermore, praising them with one's own words is not everything, and I want to believe that those people have more wishes and work than that.

I'm also still in the middle of training, and I'm sorry I haven't been able to put it into words enough.
What a bunch of butts.

Seidomon and Jodomon both understand that the essentials are two giants

Jack

This is Kawaguchi Hidetoshi. This is my humble answer to the question.

There are a lot of answers from the Jodo Gate (other powers), so I wouldn't dare say it's from Seidomon (self-power)...

Anyway, among the teachings of both Seidomon and Jodomon, there are teachings that are explained from the side of Katsugi-san as a manifestation of the world that has already been enlightened by Nyorai, and it is quite difficult to understand the teachings of Katsugi-san from a secular way of thinking. (In other words, there are places where misunderstandings are also likely to occur.)

Actually, there are two types of teachings (Buddhism) in Nyorai's teachings (Buddhism), the teaching of Katsugijitsu as the ultimate supreme truth of Buddhism, and the teachings explained as convenient (counterfactual sermons and medicine for the sick), and I think it is necessary to carefully examine and understand which one these teachings are, relying on Buddhist scriptures, treatises, and commentaries by priests.

In other words, it is important to understand the teachings of Katsu Yoshizumi as the teachings of Katsu Yoshizumi, understand that convenient teachings are convenient teachings, and then be able to accurately use them properly in practice, and whether they are a reliable Buddhist path according to one's own temperament and roots.

Anyway, Buddhism can be broadly divided into two ways of preaching (2), and I hope that people will continue to learn Buddhism from now on while being slightly aware of which side of the teaching and how they should make use of it in their own practice.

Postscript to see thank you...

Exactly, Master Ryuki explained [all Buddha's laws (teachings)] based on “Kansho Nakasho” (24, 8 to 10) and “Two Truths (2)” in “Nakasho Nemoto” (Nakasho Nemoto). [Namely], the truth (secular) as the understanding of the world, and the truth (Katsu Yoshitaka) as supreme significance.” , “Roughly, people who don't know the distinction between these two truths (two truths) never know the profound truth in Buddha's teachings.” , “Without relying on [the world's] language conventions, the supreme meaning cannot be explained. Nirvana (nirvana) cannot be proven without reaching the highest meaning.” It has been stated.

Please learn a lot about how to understand the meaning of victory as “supreme meaning.”

Kawaguchi Hidetoshi Gassho

An old and new question

 tonight. I think I was asked about a very fundamental doctrine. I belong to the Jodo sect, so I “wish and praise to be born in the Pure Land,” in other words, “by Hirosachiya (By Hirosachiya) Nembutsu” (as a difference from Shinshu). Questions such as “praise, but what do you do about people who cannot be praised due to some kind of physical disability” and “what to do with a baby one day after birth” are questions that have been asked for a long time, and that's why I think so many monks have given so many answers. Thank you very much for raising this question.
From here on, it's my super personal idea. Please be aware that “there are also monks in the Jodo sect who personally think this way.”
The Jodo sect is a teaching that preaches the Pure Land of Paradise, but in fact, I thought that there must also be worldly profit = merit for that person's present day. Speaking of anything, it is “peace of mind related to after death.”
Various problems, questions, and suffering arise every day, but the biggest one is probably anxiety about “what will happen if I die.” That's why most religions give the answer. Japanese Buddhism is sometimes ridiculed as funerary Buddhism, but I think it is undeniable that it has survived precisely because it has continued to answer this question.
I've already got answers to life's biggest questions. So everyday problems are smaller than that. By taking it that way and making them say it, you can live without leaving it up to your heart's content. I think there are such benefits in this world.
This is probably where Master Miura says, “Other people, etc...” I wonder if it's an urgent issue for me, or if it's just a play on words seeking logical consistency.
The fact that the Buddha saves us is not a physical phenomenon. “Mysterious Power” is a function that cannot be captured in words. So if you try to get to the bottom of logical consistency... it's bound to be endless.
I think the one that jumps over that is actually “who did you ask?” My master said this, my grandfather said this, Honen Shonin said this... I think after all, the words depend on “who uttered them.” What do you think?
I also watch it on TV, but “I think that kid is happy in heaven by now,” and there's no argument for that. I think the alternative is faith. I rely on words, and one day I will walk away from words. I think that's the line.

About Namu Amida Buddha

I live my life thinking that the mercy of Namu Amida Buddha is extremely important.