hasunoha

About industries where killing is unavoidable

To the monk

I'm currently in the process of changing jobs.
I'm also struggling in terms of age.
Meanwhile, it just so happened to be at a lecture
There were times when I heard from the lecturer and the president of a meat processing center.

If you're interested, why don't you come and see it?
There was also a story called, but due to various circumstances, we haven't contacted them yet.
We are doing corporate research starting with pamphlets, and it seems that they are doing “and livestock.”
If you look up the described work process on the internet, there is a possibility that it will be shocking to me because the process performed as a general technique is lethal.

As a consumer, I usually eat meat.
I think it's an essential industry until it reaches the dinner table.

I still don't know if I'll apply for this company,
I would like to ask a few questions about how to think about killing that is unavoidable in terms of duty from a monk's point of view.

・Monks at local temple events
I will chant it in the form of “Please follow me and chant it in the form of 'immortal life'...”, but this will not be protected, what should I do?

・In this industry, we specialize in slaughtering animals of about 100 kg,
In the first process, it seems that treatment is carried out quite close to living animals, but what kind of attitude should we take when dealing with those animals?
(I think we should be “thankful,” but for animals it's their own lives and deaths, so I don't know how far they'll forgive them.
Also, since it seems common for there to be quite a few processing heads per day,
(If you perform a “special prayer movement,” there is a risk that it may cause a work accident.)

・Should I go to purify myself as often as possible, or go to pray at a memorial monument or a nearby temple on a daily/weekly/monthly basis?
(Worries about some kind of trouble, etc.)

・I don't know if I can bring it in according to factory hygiene standards, but is it better to have some amulets?

・By engaging in this work,
In the future, for example, “you won't be able to become a monk”
“You won't be able to visit certain temples” or something
Can something like a Buddhist penalty occur?

You may be asking ridiculous questions.
However, even if “what will happen to livestock farming in Japan under the TPP” can be investigated elsewhere,
It's unlikely you'll be able to ask about this kind of thing unless you're a monk.

I'm very sorry, but please let me know, monk.

7 Zen Responses

A “commandment” that cannot be kept

Taputapusama
Nice to meet you, my name is Tetsuya Urakami from Nagomi-an. Thank you for your support.

Taputapu-san is currently working to change jobs, and she's thinking about killing as a job and how to think about it as Buddhism.

What monks say “immortality ~ ~” at local temples is probably the “Five Commandments,” which are basic precepts (rules) for Buddhists.
One of them is the commandment of immortality, which is interpreted as “people must not be killed” in the narrow sense, but when viewed broadly, I think that “people, animals, and plants must not take any life at all.”
Furthermore, I believe that not only are you prohibited from stealing directly, but you are also prohibited from stealing indirectly.

Eating not only meat and fish, but also vegetables and grains is “killing.”
More specifically, soap, pharmaceuticals, etc. are also tested on animals, so it is “killing.” In other words, it's a “commandment” that cannot be kept.

When it comes to why there are commandments I can't go out of my way to keep, one thing is (I keep the rules properly!) To prevent that arrogance. I think the other is so that we can always feel the preciousness of life.

If you were to join that company, you would be shocked at first. But for better or worse, I think it's something you'll get used to. Nevertheless, I would like Taputapu-san to always have the feeling of asking and thinking in Hasunoha.

Also, as you said, if you do prayer movements etc. one by one, it may interfere with your work. There are probably regular memorial services and repose of souls as a company, so you can participate in them, pray at a memorial monument or a nearby temple if that's enough, and if you have a Buddhist altar at home, it might be a good habit to worship in the morning.
Either way, I think it's better to “put your hands together with gratitude” rather than the attitude of “being afraid of being caught.”

Finally, I think that butchering and other occupations are equally valuable jobs.
If Shita Putapu-san becomes a monk in the future, I think it would be great if she could talk about the preciousness of life from her own experiences.

For reference, I would like to introduce a picture book called “The Day Mii-chan Receives Life Becomes Meat.” I think it's in the library, so please take a look if you like.

Excerpted from Article 13 of “Shoisho”

I will respond based on Article 13 of “Shoisho.” (The content of “Shoisho” was shown with “”, but that content is my own translation.)

Shinran Shonin said, “If only people who keep the Five Commandments and don't do bad deeds can encounter the Buddha's mercy, how can we leave this lost world and become Buddha?” He said, “Every person, if appropriate relationships work, can do any kind of thing, and everyone lives by drawing nets in the ocean or river and fishing, people who live by hunting beasts and catching birds in the fields and mountains, and people who do business and cultivate fields and spend their days cultivating fields, all people are the same.” I was told that. The Buddha's mercy (the original power of Amida Nyorai in the Jodo Shinshu sect) falls on everyone equally. Therefore, no matter what kind of job it is, the Buddha will never abandon it. However, this means “no matter how much medicine you have, you don't drink poison as you like.” In other words, being able to encounter the Buddha's mercy that falls upon any person is when you recognize that “I am the one who needs exactly this kind of mercy.”

Our lives are made up of a variety of lives. Also, it is a reality that there are jobs where other lives must be taken for the sake of our lives. Then, it seems that some people who work in such jobs say they can't eat meat themselves. Once again, I feel that I must offer a deep sense of gratitude to those who work every day in deep repentance and reflect on my own lives.
Finally, I would like to thank you very much for asking this question.

If possible, it's better not to kill

The more you kill, the more you get into the habit of killing.
The more angry you get, the more angry you become.
If you let your mind accumulate bad habits (sin, bad karma), it will interfere with enlightenment.
Moving away from enlightenment means that worries and suffering will not go away.
Once you understand that, it is up to you to decide what to do.
It's similar to whether athletes do strength training or not.
You might be able to win the game without doing any strength training.
However, if it can be inferred that strength training is more effective, it is better to do strength training if possible.
Also, if you realize it and get rid of the flow of reincarnation, you won't have to kill yourself at work.
It's a horrible law that if you make an effort not to kill, you can go to a world where you don't need to kill, and if you keep killing, it's hard to get out of a world where you're easily killed and killed.
The reason why I say such harsh things is that in the Jodo sect, it is important to be aware of one's own foolishness (worry).
However, there is a sutra that Amitabha Buddha welcomes even people with such criminal acts to the Pure Land of Paradise, so even if they kill someone, they are not abandoned by the Buddha's mercy.

It's important to keep your mind right

The Buddha and the Buddha's disciples were eating meat. In the morning, I went to the alms, received leftovers from each household, and saved my life. Just because meat was in that leftover food doesn't mean you avoid it. The same goes for when you're invited by someone. “Meat is red” is a later story. If eating meat was really a sin, at least it would have been something other than having a Buddha disciple eat meat. The fact that this is not the case means that occupations related to meat and cooking are not alienated in Buddhism, regardless of how the public sees it.

On the other hand, I would like to express my deep respect for your question. They don't think that they can't worry about that in order to make a living, etc., and they feel guilty about murder. If you feel guilty, it's probably because you have a pure heart and are the right person. I think that's more amazing than anything else.

There are many different occupations in the world, and there are all kinds of people. Not only do they not feel guilty even though they are sinful, there are many people who discriminate and look down on others depending on their occupation, home, region, etc. Even among monks, there are people like that who really want to wear them and throw them away. You will live a much better life than those people. Please take good care of that heart.

This is an important question, so I'll make it clear

To Taputapu-sama
Thank you for your question.

First, please don't value the idea that it is an “essential industry until it reaches the dinner table.” No matter what kind of person you are, you know, live without eating. I am very thankful that there are people who do work that is essential to our lives.
On top of that, what is the difference between agriculture and animal husbandry? Is there no life in plants? I don't care if I harvest rice, but do animals care? This is a discussion that has historically continued in Buddhism for a thousand or two thousand years, but it is actually a delicate issue. Discussions are taking place in real time between the livestock industry and the Buddhist community. I understand very well that this is a simple question, but please keep in mind that there is a risk of hurting someone by taking this opportunity.

Now, even Elder Sumanasara of Theravada Buddhism, which is a preceptic principle, said, “The fact that you can completely follow the precepts and live a perfect good life” is wrong and misunderstood in the first place.
I myself lived a preceptic practice in Southeast Asia, and the Theravada said, “Even for a short period of time, let's become a monk at least once in a lifetime. While you are a monk, you keep the precepts, but once you return to secular life, you must do your work (and animal husbandry) honestly and with all your heart. The idea was, “Let's keep the commandment on Buddha's day twice a month even if we return to secular life.”
There is confusion now, but in the old days, Japanese housekeepers also thought, “Let's keep the precepts on Buddhist days such as Obon and memorial services, and do our work honestly and hard on a regular basis.”
There is an image that admonition has become obsolete with the times, but in reality it is becoming more and more morbid...

There is absolutely nothing to do with slaughter and tatari. As for memorial services, there is a balance with the way of thinking in the workplace, so it cannot be said unequivocally. There is a risk that holding an amulet itself would be disrespectful. I wonder if it could be taken as if they say that the workplace is so-called “unclean”...

There are no Buddhist penalties. It's not supposed to happen.

The days continue to be unusually hot. I hope you don't get tired. Gassho

Bye, thank you for the meal.

Buddhists have five commandments to keep. “Don't kill living creatures,” “don't steal,” “don't have negative sexual relationships,” “don't lie,” and “don't drink alcohol.”

It is extremely difficult for anyone to keep the commandments, just like hitting a mosquito.

However, unlike “rules,” which are rules, “commandments,” there is no punishment for not being able to keep them. As a habit, I think “keep in mind” is rather close to a “goal.” (I wonder if they'll get mad at me...)

I think they're probably worried not about the “carnivorous food” they usually do, but about the fact that they “have to give up” themselves for that.
As a “goal,” the consciousness of “let's protect it” does not apply there either.

But lying can also save someone.
Drinking alcohol can also give you energy for tomorrow (not an excuse).

By doing that work yourself, you can help someone else.
Isn't that the greatest joy in working?

I will introduce the “words after a meal” of the Jodo sect.
“I finished my meal, rich in heart, and full of strength
I swear by Onogatsumi, and repay your kindness.”

By receiving precious lives, people gain energy and are kept alive.
It is important to be aware of the life you have received and live a life worthy of that life.

The superman called “Geronimo” in “Kinnikuman” was originally just a human.
A thankful chief was trying to kill a child in an exam aimed at superhuman beings.
Geronimo also felt indebted to the chief, but in order to fulfill his mission as a superhuman,
They defeated the chief and saved the children.
(Actually, the superhuman examiner was a fake, turned into a fake, so the chief was safe.)

“Precepts” are something I keep in mind, but I don't break them with “unavoidable” preparedness.
Like Geronimo, I always think about what I should be,
If that still bothers you, it's fine on the spot, so
before work starts or even after it's over,
Please recite a few nembutsu.
I think Taputapu-sama's worried feelings will ease a little.

There is an answer in the character for life

When I was weeding, I thought, “Isn't this killing?”
There were times when I didn't eat it because I thought it would kill even rice if that were the case.
huh? Wait a minute, OK? Don't kill them, so why don't you eat them? then I'm going to die, right? you're going to kill yourself?
What about Buddha? they were eating it, right?
Dead Words have continued to save and save people for 2,500 years, right?
Yes, we have to live that way and make the most of it.

Carpenters and foresters don't kill trees.
My job is to make use of trees and make use of people.
The palace carpenter has been building a building that is 1000 years old.
If you do work that ruins or kills trees, it will kill trees, and that
They are killing trees.
Make use of trees.
In other words, there is an answer to the word life.
Yours is “not the job of killing” things.
It's a job that “makes use of things, kills lives ❝ lives ❞ in order to make use of people.”
The character for life is also the character for living, living, and “making use of” even after death.
It seems to be the way we live.
The people who first made air conditioners, telephones, and food processing machines must have lived and utilized the wisdom of their ancestors everywhere, even if they died.

We must not forget that before Buddhism, all living things ate other organisms and lived while being eaten by other living things.
Even humans are actually eaten by viruses, bacteria, microorganisms that parasitize in the body, mosquitoes, etc.

If you shouldn't kill him, “don't kill yourself either.”
If you don't want to kill yourself, you must receive another life.
Starting to add good and bad thoughts to that will nibble on the fruit of wisdom.
Buddhists must go beyond this sense of understanding.

Well, the truth is that the ultimate commandment of immortality is that we must not fall into immortality.
This is Kongoujyo, which must not be misused, so if you really want to know, please go to Mt. Toyama and go to Sanzen.