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causal retaliation for offspring?

Hello.

As I studied Buddhism, various things I had misunderstood until now became clear, and now, for example, I am now only a little bit convinced by selflessness. I've calmed down quite a bit, but I'm actually worried about causal retaliation. Please let me know when you have free time.

Causal retaliation means that both good things and bad things come out as a result of what you've done. Are there times when you are responsible for the generations of your parents, grandparents, and older ancestors?

Debts and the like are not obvious; for example, many generations ago, the behavior of our ancestors was bad and made people cry, so now our descendants will be in a situation where they will be made to cry. Many generations ago, you won't be able to confirm the facts, and don't worry about it, as long as you're solid, it's fine! I'm trying to think that... but I don't really feel like it's going to be passed on due to blood ties. There were people like monks who talked about the causes and relationships of my ancestors, so I'm still a little worried from time to time.
Is there such a case where causal relationships are passed on and causal retaliation comes out to descendants?

PostScript
I think it would be really suspicious if people suddenly said something like exorcism that breaks a causal relationship, or something like hundreds of thousands of yen, but it also seems plausible when Buddhist stories come in here and there... the human mind is something unreliable where you get lost even if you think once that it's okay. I laughed at my own absurdity.

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I don't understand! crying

I think this is an insanely complicated issue (; ^ω^)

Honestly, it's not something I can answer based on my academic knowledge... I think it's going to be a question of causal retaliation, in other words, luck.

While it is basic among the fundamentals of Buddhism, it is also an auspicious sign of Shakyamuni's enlightenment itself. There are also discussions among scholars, and this is the content of good fortune that Shakyamuni explained even from the early scriptures! I think it's probably impossible to completely confirm that.

Well, my ancestors and descendants are... due to causal retaliation for the question! It's called the Three Generations Double Cause and Effect Theory, isn't it? Even here at Hasunoha, there are also people who respond to questioners in difficult circumstances with the tone of argument that the cause of their ancestors... flickering, but I can't say that even if my mouth is torn.

because I don't understand it.

If I were to follow that theory, I think it is necessary to explain doctrines and interpretations with considerable determination rather than being half-hearted.

What I understand is this

> It's an unreliable thing that makes you get lost even if you think it's okay once.

You're right already. That's it.

It means I'm at a loss right now.

And that hesitation is not a story about what happened to my ancestors, but “since the beginning,” in other words, my hesitation that I don't even know the beginning is here and now.

And it is said that the teachings of Buddhism made me aware of that uncertainty.

That's all. Buddhism made me notice my hesitation because I had lost my mind without even knowing it.

Cause has effect. There is always a cause for the current outcome. But I don't understand all of the causes! Trying to understand is also deepening my hesitation, and my ancestors felt like they understood...! I think saying something like that is also a loss in the midst of hesitation.

Is that what faith is like?

Of course, scholars studied and discussed doctrines and theories, and I would like to learn the results properly as a monk.

※Note that the idea that causality (karma) is inherited due to blood ties is materialistic, and since it's Zara that siblings have completely different lives, it can be denied.

Parents' causes and effects don't reward children!

I read your question.
It's a so-called “parent's cause and effect rewards the child.”
In this case, cause and effect and cause and effect seem to correctly indicate “karma.”
In the first place, karma is energy generated based on one's own right and wrong actions.
That energy is demonstrated at any time, and it directs one's future.

What you have to be careful about here is that the work you have created can only be demonstrated by yourself.
No matter how many immediate family members or ancestors you are, the work of others will not bring you results, and vice versa.
This is called the “self-earned” principle.

It seems that the idea of karma is sometimes misused in the “parent's cause and effect rewards the child” theory described above and the housework theory.
However, Buddhism believes that “the past does not bind the present,” but “the present creates the future.”
Please keep that in mind.

Since everything from the past to the present is connected, there may be times when the misdeeds of our ancestors have had some kind of negative impact on the present.
Also, on the other hand, the good deeds of our ancestors may have had some kind of positive influence on the present.
But those of us who aren't Buddhas can't know that.
So you'd better not worry about it.
What we should rather worry about is the future.
It's what you do.
If you do bad business, it may have a bad effect on your offspring. If you do good deeds, you will have a positive impact on your descendants.
Therefore, it is important to live your life so that you don't do bad things as much as possible and that you do as good things as possible.

Hi, disagree

Other people's (people) bad songs (Yokohama)
Don't look (see)
Make (do) this for someone else (person)
What did he write (not)
Don't watch
Just my own
What do you make (do)
What do you make (what) Sazarishi
I want (maybe) be
(“The Faku Sutra,” 50th verse, translated by Tomomatsu Enshi)

This is Buddhism.
This stranger includes even parents and siblings.
Even more so if it's the act of an ancestor whose face you don't even know.
“I'd rather not worry about it.”

① The theory of cause and effect was rooted around India even before Buddha was born. “We were born into the upper class because of our good behavior until our previous lives. You slaves were born in a humble position because of bad behavior up until the previous life. At best, they seriously work hard as slaves so that they can be reborn in a better place after the next life.” That was the basis for Varna (caste system).

② In response to that, “That's wrong! The important thing is to live honestly in the present, not in past lives!” “Thoughts like previous life or next life are futile, so stop it.” It was Buddha who explained it.
https://hasunoha.jp/questions/23828

③ However, while the forces of Brahmin (later Hinduism) and Jainism, which are supporters of Varna, grew, Buddhism gradually became impoverished after the death of the Buddha. Therefore, Indian Buddhism syncretized Shinto and Buddhism with Brahmanism, Jainism, etc., and brought causal theory and magical elements to the forefront.
Speaking of how poor it is, after all, the destruction of Indian Buddhism was inevitable, and now Japanese master Sasaki Shurei (Sasai Shurei) has taken the lead in reconstruction.

④ As you can see by looking at it this way, the causal theory in the Indian region is “My Actions in the Past World: My Own Actions in the Present World”, and my ancestors have nothing to do with it. As Oshinobu Kandoshi said, they earned it their own accord. I think it's fair to say it's an unscrupulous business. That's because a causal relationship that should be broken isn't established in the first place.

There's a reason it's even more vicious than that. It is unscrupulous because it encourages the mind to regard others as bad people (the cause of evil). That shouldn't be Buddhism. Ancestors are “targets for receiving my good deeds.” Only then can compassion be fostered. With that in mind, please reread the Buddha's words at the beginning.

Hi, arguing. It's fine now.

The source for a parent's cause and effect to reward a child is not a Buddhist scripture

I read it.

In the first place, it is necessary to keep in mind that the source of the parent's cause and effect rewards the child is Shunden Jitsujitsuki (Kyokutei Bakin) in the late Edo period. The housework theory also discriminates against tribes
There is a sad history that was born, and discrimination against women (nyonin) is a thing of the past in Buddhism
It was there. There was even such a thing as wartime teaching in the previous war. Wrong in the past
Buddhism was also preached, so it is important to reflect on it and break with it.