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About ascetic monks

While everyone was deeply concerned, I thought it would be out of place for me to ask this question, but it really bothered me, so I'd like you to let me know.
I have a few questions about the monk.
・About how many days does it take to become a monk from an ordinary person
・Is it true that some ascetic monks can't have a smartphone
・I heard that ascetic monks wake up earlier in the morning than monks to read sutras, but is the time to go to bed determined by rules?

4 Zen Responses

Manners etc. differ depending on the denomination

Nice to meet you, hello.

I saw your question. It depends on the denomination, etc., but when you become a monk at an independent temple and when speaking in the Shingon sect, the time of ascetic practice is different between ascetic practices at Koyasan etc.

At least 3 months at a standalone temple

In places such as Koyasan, it takes several years. Also, you cannot hold a cell phone or smartphone.

I prepare and review early in the morning, even when I go to bed at 9 o'clock.

Whether we become monks at an independent temple or Mount Koya, we monks practice ascetic practices in our daily lives.
There are also temple services such as missionary activities, ascetic practices of reciting sutras, etc., funerals, memorial services, praying/prayer practice, calligraphy, etc.

I think the job of a monk is very rewarding. And being able to meet and talk with everyone and make them smile is more important than anything else.

I hope you can arrange the adventure trip of your life in your own way.

Gassho

Let's do some research

I read it.
I'm thankful that you are interested in becoming a monk.
After all, it varies greatly depending on the denomination.
There is training, and it's important to gain experience as a monk.
It's different for each denomination or for each head temple, isn't it?
It also depends a lot on how you become a monk.

Even in the Jodo sect, I think there are courses where you can get used to it as early as 1 year. Generally, you go to Shomon University (Bukkyo University/Taisho University), take training courses, practice at the head temple, and become a monk, but it takes about 3 years. Also, since you won't be able to apply unless your mentor becomes someone, I think you'll belong to a temple somewhere. Who will become your mentor is a very big issue, so I think it is necessary to meet various monks in person and sincerely ask the person you want this person to teach you.

Also, basically, no personal items such as mobile phones or computers are allowed during training. Wallets and shoes can also be taken away. (Make sure you don't escape) Contact with the outside world is completely cut off. There is no television, no newspapers, no radio. I can't see it.

The time for ascetic monks to wake up depends on the season, but they wake up before 5 o'clock, and I think Zen Buddhism probably wakes up at 3 o'clock. It's like 9 o'clock to go to bed, but I think there are places where I have to study. Basically, I live in a group, so I only have 1 square meter of tatami mat, that is, a sleeping space.

If you're interested, the first thing to do is consider which denomination you want to become a monk. Then why don't you contact the head temple of the denomination or the religious affairs office where you have faith? Recently, each denomination also has a website, so I think it's relatively easy to make inquiries. (In the past, it was thought that the threshold for making inquiries was high, and it felt like being rejected, but now I don't think that much.)

In any case, if you are interested, please do some research.

I am more than happy that you will continue to be interested and learn about Buddhism and monks, and I would like to support you.

Do you have a bigger ambition to pursue the path rather than time

As a general rule, people wake up at 4 or 4:30 in the morning at an ascetic dojo of the Soto sect.
It's not a holiday, but I wake up at 5:00 or 5:30 on the 49th day with 4 and 9. It's called hair cleaning and it's the day you shave your hair.
As a general rule, I go to bed at 9 o'clock at night, but in my time I almost never went to bed at 9 o'clock. I couldn't sleep because of memorizing things or studying for duty. 💦
The morning class will be held from 5 to 5:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBF2q0p9pdg
This makes my legs ⚡ numb. They sleep even though they are sleepy, and even if they just look like they are sleeping, old monks catch their eye and later they are smitten with anger. (; tish;)
After I graduated from university, I went to Oyama (Oyama) = ascetic dojo. It is commonly known as Oyama. Motoyama. The head temple of the Soto sect.
In addition to both head temples of Eiheiji Temple or Sojiji Temple, the Soto sect has specialized monasteries in various regions.
Every temple has the mountain name Mt. 00, and in fact, there are places deep in the mountains.
At least six months in the Soto sect.
You can get the qualification of a second-class teacher three times a month with Special Ango with a secret trick, but it's no use. It's not a period. The person's motivation and desire.
If you look at it with a training attitude, it's just training, isn't it?
If you don't take everything seriously, you can't be a bad person even if you stay for 20 years.
What does it mean to become a monk unless you have a clear sense of purpose, you probably just spent time in such a space no matter how many decades you have been there.
Conversely, there are foreigners who want a career saying, “I have practiced at the head temple of the Dogen Zenji sect in Japan,” but practicing Buddhism is not a career.
Have you learned the essentials and key points of Buddhism?
There are people who practice at Japanese monasteries for a few years and then immediately go overseas to proselytize, but even if they go without knowing anything about Buddhism, it seems like they go abroad to play.
What is important is not the time period or place, but the person's own bodhisattva heart, prayer, and sense of purpose.
Smartphones and cell phones are prohibited in principle.
Recently, if the period of 100 days of abstinence has passed, it should be OK to go out and have a cell phone for duties such as the Tanakyo Sutra, etc., but people with weak intentions will become dependent, so when they go to an ascetic dojo, what do they do without living without such things. I wonder if it was still PHS in our days.
I didn't need it. Life at an ascetic dojo is “not that much,” so I don't use it even if I have one.

in my case...

I also became a monk from an ordinary person.

Since it is part of the Shinshu Otani school (Jodo Shinshu, Higashi Honganji) temple,
I spent a year at Otani Senshu Gakuin, which has a boarding system.

That was over 20 years ago,
Cell phones and computers are useless,
The only way to get in touch with the outside world was by public phone.

Morning and evening work and meal times were fixed,
You must also take classes well.
I enrolled after I quit my job as a salaryman,
If you're an experienced working person, I don't think it's tough.

It was about 4 hours from dinner to curfew,
Sunday was a full holiday, so
I was able to fully enjoy Kyoto with my classmates.

Since the Jodo Shinshu sect is a sect without ascetic practices,
I think it's easy to become a monk.
But it's like a hypothetical exemption,
Whether or not to become a trusted monk
It probably depends on each person's study after entering the temple.