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What is a separation fee

My wife's parents' house died out, and since it's far away, I consulted with the chief priest about finishing my parents-in-law's graves and moving them to a nearby ossuary, and they asked me to pay 3 million yen other than the cost of removing the tomb. I was worried, and when I consulted with a lawyer, they told me that there is no legal need for an evacuation fee of even 1 yen. However, as a matter of gratitude up until now, I have 500,000 yen, and when I told the chief priest to that effect, they were furious and angry (it's about the law; I'm talking about religion). Of course, 500,000 yen was also awarded. I don't understand separation fees more than money. Is there a separation fee? Please tell me. Thank you for your support.

3 Zen Responses

It's Okimochi

I read it.
I think you are having a hard time being told such a thing by the chief priest of the temple. It would be really painful to be told like that, and you're probably wondering what to do about that feeling. I understand your feelings from the bottom of my heart.

To be clear, the separation fee varies from temple to temple. Sometimes they don't need it at all, and there are also cases where they charge exorbitant amounts. Therefore, there is a big difference between temples. It changes depending on the circumstances in which the temple is located, the management situation, and the chief priest's thoughts.

As the lawyer explained, separation fees are not legally obligatory.

I don't know what kind of thoughts the chief priest said, but it may be that they want the separation fee to be controlled as a feeling of gratitude that their ancestors have given memorial services and taken care of them until now, a feeling of compassion that they would like the temple not to survive in the future, or a feeling of faith in that sect.

I don't think there's a problem with you paying “okimochi” to the temple. Incidentally, my temple holds a separation fee of about 100,000 yen. This includes eye closing ceremonies associated with reburial and offerings associated with procedures. It also changes depending on each house. If no one has a family, they will pay to the joint memorial tower, so there are cases where money is not received. Therefore, it depends on each condition and idea.

In any case, I think it is necessary to calm down again, clearly communicate your thoughts, and have the chief priest calm down and explain it to you.

If the chief priest is still angry and doesn't talk, you can consult with the head temple or the religious affairs office of that sect, and if unavoidable, I think it's okay to ask a lawyer.

In any case, the separation fee is due to that person's fault. We will pay to the extent possible, so that's fine.

I sincerely pray to the Buddha, gods, and ancestors that you and everyone will continue to take good care of your ancestors, and that you can live every day with peace of mind and peace of mind while being watched over by your ancestors. We wholeheartedly agree

If they still don't handle it, I think it's okay to talk to my friend's administrative scrivener.
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You're not wrong, but...

 You didn't do anything wrong, Mr. Tong.
What I want you to look up first is ask why your family temple has charged 3 million yen. If the chief priest doesn't work, let's ask the president.
If the reason why the separation fee changes due to the economic state of the temple, it is a selfish reason.
If the reason is a temple agreement, you may have no choice but to pay the separation fee. There is probably also the possibility that it is a custom.
The next person to talk to is, but let's also talk to the religious affairs office or head temple of that denomination. I'll tell you how to leave. A divorce can be done in writing. I think there are sentence examples too. When you leave the church, your personal information may also be managed by the religious affairs office or head temple. Only the chief priest of the family temple can do the procedure to remove it from that list.
However, personally, I cannot forgive your actions at the family temple. There's no need to get angry. Recently, it was reported on the separation fee on a news program called The Morning Show. My denomination is also in trouble.
So, say monks, don't think they'll be treated kindly because they have mercy, and insist on your point with a dignified attitude. Don't go alone; go with a witness and negotiate with the chief priest.

 
 

As the lawyer said

There is no departure fee. The actual expenses for the stone shop and if the temple has a tomb in the temple grounds, I think it would be enough to donate about tens of thousands of yen as a nuisance fee such as noise. It would be even more admirable if you offered the feeling that you have been indebted to until now.
In the first place, it is an age where freedom of religion is guaranteed by the Constitution. When you stop being a believer in a religious corporation, you can complete it with just one stroke of “I will stop,” such as a postcard, rather than an oral one. A one-sided statement of intent on the part of the believer is simply necessary. Religious groups have no right to stay or demand money or goods in exchange for leaving. You have the right to ask for something when you join the team, though. Enrollment fees or something. Even that is usually conscientious. Anyway, it's free when you leave. It is guaranteed by the Constitution.
Of course, religious groups will appeal to give them some care so far instead. All you have to do is hand it over as an offering with this feeling. Half a million yen seems like more than enough.
There is no need for a trial from here. Even if the other party goes to trial, all religious corporations have lost in case law up until now. You can ignore it.